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RE: Citizenship is a responsibility not an asset

in #life6 years ago (edited)

Do you think mafias, or non-state actors cannot cause problems? Terrorist groups have been known to pursue genocide. If some terrorist group attacks those who are stateless then who will come to their aid? Who will prevent total genocide?

Show me the ideal micro country which you deem better than real states?

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Do you think mafias, or non-state actors cannot cause problems

Mafias? What do you think govt is if not the dominating mafia organization?

Terrorist groups have been known to pursue genocide.

Funded by govts, Americans specifically. Remember Mujaheddin in Afghanistan? USA funded them, along with Al-Quaeda, ISIS and the rest. Those groups would never came to be if not for the govts, who are inherently evil and corrupt.

If some terrorist group attacks those who are stateless then who will come to their aid? Who will prevent total genocide?

People themselves, a militia perhaps. A community is not that helpless when it's not suppressed by the state. People have grown fat stupid and complacent under the state, and that was its goal all along. As soon as this poison is removed, society might start evolving for real.

Mafias? What do you think govt is if not the dominating mafia organization?

So your counter argument is we can have a legal mafia or an illegal mafia? So either way it's the same mafia just with a different front?

Funded by govts, Americans specifically. Remember Mujaheddin in Afghanistan? USA funded them, along with Al-Quaeda, ISIS and the rest. Those groups would never came to be if not for the govts, who are inherently evil and corrupt.

You do realize other governments have funded various terrorist groups and dictators too right? The United States isn't the only government in the world which has agencies that can do this. Once you realize it's not just the United States then you can make the point that governments fund terrorism. But you also have to understand that terrorist groups exist regardless of whether governments fund them.

The KKK existed before the CIA or FBI. The KKK was and is clearly a domestic terrorist organization. It was actually the FBI which helped dismantle the KKK if you look at the history. There is no reason to believe the KKK would not rise again if governments didn't exist to dismantle it or groups like it. What about those neo nazis who want to bring a new holocaust? The only thing preventing them from rising again is government agencies infiltrating their ranks.

How do you feel about governments doing these activities? Are you saying you'd rather see these activities done through the private sector, or are you saying they shouldn't be done at all?

People themselves, a militia perhaps. A community is not that helpless when it's not suppressed by the state. People have grown fat stupid and complacent under the state, and that was its goal all along. As soon as this poison is removed, society might start evolving for real.

How is a militia any different than a mafia? Think about it. If a group of people decide to form what you call a militia then how will the militia get funded unless by organized crime? If it's crime which funds it rather than taxes how do you separate it conceptually from just another street gang, or mafia, etc?

What would stop this group of armed war lords from doing whatever they want to whoever is less able to defend themselves?