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RE: How to avert Hell on Earth

in #life8 years ago

Trump should be stopped if he intends to withdraw from the climate change accord
Your argument is bogus. It's exactly the same as the religious argument...
There might not be a hell and there might not be a heaven..but suppose there is...better to be saved just in case
which is not surprising..
Alarmism is a religion...it's not based on science at all.

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Thanks for your contribution. It is indeed the same argument. I respect your right and logic in choosing as you do. I certainly see no benefit to it though. I hope you respect my right to choose as I feel wise. I would put it a little differently though. I choose to live a life I find pleasing, the life which would bring the best rewards according to my education and logic. Having studied thought and logic and philosophy and religion and having changed from what might having been a militant Atheist into what seems to me to be an astute empiracle explorer who's current belief set is most certainly at odds with science and amazed at the scientific world's assertion that religion requires faith whilst science does not.

My knowledge of science and its history tells a story which would require far more faith of me than my current beliefs do. I find the foundation of today's primary theories incredibly presumtuous, overly reliant on imaginary forces deemed to exist to satisfy mathematical equations, overly complex and completely lacking in eloquence.

I find Man's need for a beginning absurd, along with the ridiculous Big Bang Theory (which requires more assumptions than measurements).

The assumptions of science far oustrip the faith of religion for ridicule.
Latest discoveries assert no accelerating universe, no end to time, space, matter or energy and no beginning for any of them. Also, no Dark Matter or Dark Energy, no Strong Force and the list continues.

I do nevertheless recognise the fallibility of my minisqule mind and respect yours equally.

Sources to be found here : https://steemit.com/physics/@graviton/modern-science-no-basis-in-reality

It seems we agree on many things.
the word 'agnostic' comes to mind.

Agnostic ? Not in the least :)
My opologies. I failed to mention that I believe that the hidden forces are not dark matter and enery etc but the elusives ; spirit, consiousness and sentience.

These are the forces which organise and create(which actually means organise existing energy/matter into new structures) and thereby trump entropy. I believe there is a supreme spiritual enity, present in all energy and material structures at the most core level which gives structure to all things and which intelligently transforms things for the benefit of life.

I am a devout believer in some very religious concepts.
Science is supreme in that it(true science) obviously describes all these concepts perfectly. But not the science we understand today. Our ideas of science are infantile.

I'm an agnostic.
Just the facts please.
If you can't measure it...how can you be sure it exists?

Well dark matter supposedly exists since it has been'measured.' The same goes for the strong force. I assert that these are both replaced by spirit, which is thus measured. Others simply interpret the implications differently. We know so little about the reality behind the apparitions we behold and I perceive ample evidence to convince me. Most scientific concepts accepted today began as audacious ideas fleshed out through pure faith that an adequate research project would produce a viable hypothesis.

actually they don't..
but your mind is made up
don't let little things like facts get in your way.

My mind is always open and I'm eager to be proven wrong. Go for it.