Every once in a while I like to make this video.
In the video, I try to explain the difference in how money is created.
Cryptocurrencies vs. Fiat currencies (USD, euro, yen).
For me, the biggest difference is that:
Fiat money is created with a promise of work in the future in the form of a loan with interest (debt).
and
Cryptocurrencies are created with work (that is already done) and no debt. (the work is content creation on Steemit for instance or computer calculations with Bitcoin.)
Both are currencies but I prefer the latter.
Example:
If you want to buy a house and go to the bank for a loan. The bank looks at your potential future earnings and bases the amount of the loan on that. (let's say $250,000).
Now comes the magic that still so little people realize.
The bank then 'creates' this $250,000 out of nowhere 'thin air' and gives it to you and also tells you that the interest on the loan is 5%.
You buy a house with this money.
Now, you have to go out into the physical world and create real value there (a job for instance) to pay back the loan that was created with no work.
The funny thing is though that if you fail to repay the loan for whatever reason the bank then becomes the owner of the house that you bought. (even though they never did anything except create a loan with no work).
For some reason, we all believe this is normal and the way things are. But it isn't normal at all.
Yet, there was never an alternative to fiat money because truth be told fiat money is really handy.
It's nice to have a means of exchange that is the same for everyone. It makes transactions so much easier.
But luckily with blockchain and cryptocurrencies, there is a good alternative for the first time in history.
I talk about it more in my vlogs
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In the crypto world people buy Bitcoin first with Fiat and then trade it with other #cryptocurrency then they traded with it until it grows.
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Mark what a SIMPLE but fabulous way you described our current FIAT System so that many may OPEN Their EYES and see the Cruel Deception in Life that the BANKSTERS Thwart onto the People...........I am so Grateful for being here early with the Crypto's.
You made great info thanks a lot man good job 👍
Great explaination @exyle ..I strongly believe that the age for trading value through fiat currencies is almost over, next generation must and will be based on blockchains and crytocurrencies. Tokens issued from the blockchains deemed as currency of value will certainly replace fiat currency.
@exyle yeh, this is right. in this sense, we can rid off from interest rate which is ruining the life of people and creating different classes.and creating a big gap between rich and poor.
Great post. Any currency is all about trust that it has value. Crypto currencies have all elements that make them good currencies - but they are easily treatable and thus they have to offer something special ( like Steem) or they have to be big and old like bitcoin.
A lot of people don't even question the existing monetary system which totally blows me away. A debt based system means that somebody will be worse off since wealth transfer goes directly to those who already have capital without doing any work. Besides, debt based system means we will always need more and more money to finance capital, leading to inflation. The current system has so much limitation, in my opinion.
Great post and explanation. Debt that is created can never be paid back, for example the debt that US government have. The fiat currencies are based only on trust. Since former US President Richard Nixon removed the "gold standard", US Dollar does not have any value, specially after all this printed money.
Yes @bloomberg215, You do get "IT"........Constant Debt to pay back the Debt that can NEVER be Paid Back......
According to my experience, people tend to avoid big changes and stick with what they already know even if they are not satisfied (it begins with jobs, relations and goes to social system government,...).
All depends on the next generation which system do they choose.
It seems like globalization and digitization is unstoppable and maybe blockchian technology will become a big part of the future.
Exactly , You said it correctly. Future is all about crypto. Even some Banks have started their own altcoins. People are getting more into crypto day by day.
You are absolutely right in your judgment about the Fiat and the Crypto-currency, all that was previously done in the turnover of fiat money was a game in one gate and the winner in this game was in any case the banks and financial structures that were engaged in the turnover of Fiat. I agree with you about crypto-currencies, everything is different, here everyone can lead a turn and be a member of the blockchain! Thank you Mark and keep us informed of what's happening!
The debt in fiat is designed to make banks a lot of money of people's hard work. If you take a loan for, let's say 30 years, you will spend months of your life working for the bank basically.
This is my 2nd week on steemit.I did not have any idea about most of the terms here.After reading this I learnt some things about fiat and cryptos.Thank you
-cheers-
you are welcome.
am very glad with what the emergence of cryptocurrencies has achieved, by creating the gap between the rich and the poor giving everyone a relatively fair chance in life, and @exyle lovely analysis there thumbs up followed ya and resteemed.
Geweldig @exyle heel mooi uitgelegd ik zal jou uitleg zeker gaan gebruiken... keep it up UPVOTED RESTEEMED
nive explanation in "neintjestaal" I think i gonne use that in the future... if I want to explain someone.. but now i don't and let them think the bank way is the normal way.. a lot of wasted energy to explain to some people.. they only see the negative side of crypto
This has gotten to me too in the past. Now I just let it slide and that works for me. I know when someone is genuinely interested.
Hello @exyle, Do you know what the interesting part from this blog is; we (actually) all know; but when you write it like this, it let us think about it. And then; indeed its actually funny and strange,.... But so far there is not that much different to choose,... Or we have to make much fiat through the crypto's. And that is what we are working on, and especially on this blockchain.
Nicely explained i think everyone should look into this video to get the idea something really new they will learn resteemed
People have been fed the dogs so long they know nothing else. I much prefer crypto too
You and me both, man!
You are lucky that you have relatives who understand this thing. It is hard to explain it to someone who is not seeing how cryptocurrencies will be better than fiat with their banks and loans. I like to think that I invested early although I just started investing 2 months ago. Great future ahead.
Great post, I was thinking of the same thing as to how cryptocurrencies are created. But the truth is we still need fiat money around because some persons are still oblivious of the crypto world.
Both can be used in this world. That's what I do at the moment.
People should realize that banks are laughing at them when they file loans resulting in debts over time when all they did was to print colors in a piece of paper called "money", spread the idea "it's the only way to live" and later on get that something you bought out of your own effort and blood called "work".
Wow excellent video my friend and honestly i don't about the facts which you describe in your videos and i always have this question in my mind that where does the money comes from and friend you clear my mind and now i understand the whole system throughly and i also prefer cryptos because crypto currencies give us freedom and crypto help us to get out of those shit banks and now we can use our money with freedom and also their is no third party involved in it, i am sure cryptos and especially steem has bright future ahead, thanks for clearing my mind friend, Stay blessed
The fact that everybody thinks that a society based on debt is normal is the main reason why the average Joe thinks it’s a scam when speaking about cryptocurrencies. Nobody yet understand the crypto revolution because they don’t understand how fiat money work in the first place.
It's not that debt is normal or abnormal. Debt is a way of creating more liquidity on the market. Debt is ancient. The curious thing is the huge amount of debt that exists nowadays. Of course it's unsustainable and is back by promise of governments. It's money that doesn't really exist. It's sort of like margin trading. Banks lend money they don't really have and are allowed to do so to an unbelievable extent. And this reduces the value of the money we have.
That's a good break down but I think the big test is going to be how the cryptos hold value in a down economy. We haven't had one here in America in a very long time so I think we're going to go through a learning process as to the defining of what establishes value.
You nailed it on the head man ! The more I learn and understand every day about fiat vs crypto , the more I justify the unjustified-banking dislike by many people before .. thanx for your simple and clear explanation. Yes, repeat this post now and then so new comers get enlighted .
Cheers 🥂
Russian point of view:
the state central banks create a fiat money. The cryptos is created automatically without the decision of officials about the issue. And Fiat and crypt are not provided with anything, and their price is the ratio of supply and demand
Thank you for this video @exyle
This is has been a major issue in my mind the whole time. We had a long chat about it in our DTube discord yesterday and my thoughts were along what you said here.
Thanks.
That example helped me to learn more thanks man for sharing this useful topics and content daily you post
To add to the insanity of it all is when banks write down losses and about to go belly up the government will voluntarily come up and save them because, without the largest banks in the country being solvent the whole system will malfunction. Is that not the point of capitalism. Where only the best survive? Why then when banks made terrible mistakes they get saved when the average citizen gets punishment.
I feel I have no power to change any of that therefore I follow suit like most other people and use one of the major banks to store my liquidity. I hope before I leave my assets to my children that by then crypto will be the norm and no more major banks. Thanks.
Nice work, Exyle! I have tried to explain this to SO many friends and family (the worst and most misunderstanding!!!). You nailed it. You’re the fresh Andreas Antonopolous. Hope you don’t mind the analogy.
Today's vlog was amazing wonderful things you shared and a great topic to learn something how it generates and come in from thanks for sharing buddy
I like the way you explain this. It is simplified and easy to understand.
I couldn't agree more. We live in exciting times.
Yes exciting times!
Hmm never thought of it like that but its absolutly true. That's why all the bankers are so afraid that crypto is cathing on because then we wont need them.
if i got only one currency to choose that would be crypto forever for sure anyways that was a great video :D
Good explanation with good examples.
Now get out of your chair, turn around, grab that tree that you're trying to hide and get it out of your house! :)
Thank you and yes you are right about the tree...:/..lol.
the was an eye opener . very educative and i think we need more of these .Good job
@exyle,
You explained it very well. Now I got a clear picture how Fiat makes it money. Yeah crypto is the best.
Cheers~
Wow. Great explanation. Cryptocurrency is the future.
nice video as usual mate,
Great post ..Governments will be forced to create their own cryptocurrency, thus keeping both sovereign monetary policy and the ability to tax all transactions. This is already starting in Russia and Singapore.
The alternative is to watch industry slowly defect to the faster alternative of public crypto and not be able to do anything to stop it. Companies can simply pay employees in crypto. Governments have to capture industry early before that happens.
There is still a long way to go though, as evidenced by the vlog earlier in the week. There is no chance of people switching to an alternative monetary value right now while it has the potential to halve its value in a matter of days.
On the whole people want more gradual stability from earnings, they are seeing crypto more as high risk investments rather than a currency.
great info.
I'd like to disagree about how money is created and what it represents. You're right that when a loan is made more money is artificially entered into circulation. You say that it isn't normal. However, if you read any history you'll see in sources like Roman history that loans were made regularly and it wasn't a new concept for the concepts so loans existed for quite a long time. A loan is basically a replication of existing money with the idea of the creation of new value. The problem with a deflationary currency like Bitcoin is that as new value is created (i.e. work, products, people, technologies, etc.) more money is necessary to exist in circulation in order to avoid deflation. If new money didn't enter USD people would just "HODL" their dollars and wait for their money to go up. However, when the economy is not doing well, in order to encourage investment and spending, it's better to spend your money now and obtain things and make investments to avoid being hit by inflation and lose money. One of the ways governments do this is by increasing interest rates so that it becomes expensive to take out loans and makes people want to keep their money in the bank.
As for alternatives to fiat money. There have always been alternatives such as owning property, or gold. Your argument is basically leading to the idea that Bitcoin is the new gold. However, the problem with that logic takes away from the technology aspect of Blockchain, of which money is only one application. I agree that Bitcoin money is a positive development and gives people a quick escape from the nasty manipulations of government. But I recommend people to be realistic about their investments. Avoid the hype and emotion whenever you can. Don't believe everything you read, inform yourself.
AHHHHHHH! Relief. Finally somebody who understands how economics work and is brave enough to risk the flames by challenging incorrect statements. I'm new to the community and I too am excited about the exchange rates on crypto, but I've been growing steadily disheartened at how many people are upvoting, praising, and evangelizing false postulates.
Banks do not print money, nor do they generally borrow from the Fed. Remember the good ol' Savings and Loan from "It's a Wonderful Life"? Just because big capital easily crushes the individual, leading people to form a resistance against the machine mentality, doesn't mean there is some conspiracy.
Thanks for the positive post! I'm also relatively new to crypto and especially so to Steemit. But I'm fascinated by cripto and try to educate myself as much as possible. Yes. Banks do not print money. The money is printed by different agencies in different countries. In the US it's the Bureau of Engraving and Printing which prints on behalf of the Federal Reserve. I visited their museum in Washington DC some years back. In Canada, it's the Royal Canadian Mint which prints on behalf of the Bank of Canada.
One thing I could not understand is that how can you say that the money given by bank has no value, someone has earned it and deposited in the bank. Bank is not free to print whatever it wants.
I don't disagree with all of the pro/con arguments made regarding crypto-currency. I am, however extremely apprehensive of a bipolar society so I upvoted you for retaining sensibility about the way money systems work.
We mustn't forget that the government isn't a nameless machine....they are people from our society who were voted into power and used their station to create protective safety nets around themselves (padded with lots of money). This is true of the banks. It's true of the corporations. It's true of pharma. It's true of agriculture. Hell...it's even true on this site where there is so much heat around the early adopters (and bot writers and whale-makers and algorithm-gamers) who have hit huge reputation and can maintain their separation with promotion/6 day upvoting campaigns/other-bury-the-little-guy techniques.
We can't keep blaming the currency and decide to just make our own every time there becomes an imbalance of power. There must be a stable global reserve currency so that currency exchanges continue to feel they have a safe escape route, and we can all smartly hedge bets and earn through rate differences.
No, most of the money disbursed by the bank is actually borrowed from the federal reserve. The Federal reserve in turn charges what is now a 1.5% interest. Since 2008 this interest rate has been historically low between 0-0.5%. Hence the banks and corporations have been borrowing money almost for no cost and pumping it into the wall street leading to the current high stock valuations. Bitcoin and crypto valuations are also a part of the same cash excess which has been created by almost free lending for the last decade
Take away all the fiat currency that backs crypto in terms of exchange and what is crypto worth?
If I have 10000000000 bitcoins and can not exchange it for fiat or goods sold under fiat what is its value?
Super many services are starting to adopt digital currencies. You can even fly inside an airplane like with airBaltic by paying with Bitcoin. There are many consumer stores that sell electronics that you can pay with Bitcoin in Sweden you have webbhallen. You can buy cars with Bitcoin. Eventually you will be able to buy food with Bitcoin. It will be everywhere!
And Bitcoin has a limited supply of currently 16 million coins. So that keeps the value up considering how many humans are on earth 16M coins is nothing. The future world will have an increase in currencies and will be impossible for 1 human or team to control it all since so much new things is happening on a daily basis!
Yes it is considered a commodity. But has no backing value but for fiat.
Example VISA refuses to take Bitcoin and credit your acct in fiat, it would have to be converted to fiat first, they do not take commodities.
Example: I can not sent a 5 dollar chicken to VISA and have then credit me in fiat, neither can you bitcoin. But the chicken has value as a hard asset were as bitcoin is a unregulated sub fiat transacted in fiat currency.
Yes there will be a future in blockchain with the countries governments when they create their own and get rid of paper backed fiat bills. When that happens they also will not let a competing blockchain to be used in that country.
Example : in the USA Article I, Section 10, the states are not permitted to "coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; [or] make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts...." Whereas the prohibitions on the states are clear and detailed, Congress's grant of power under the Coinage Clause is open-ended.
They did this so someone could not create a competing exchange like in the USA someone printing their own currency and it competing with the established one.
Right now blockchain is not a threat to the fiat dollar because its exchange is a middle man to the fiat dollar but when they go to blockchain it will be..
Thanks for a good comment. But the government trying to control new things we have seen how that has worked out in the past. For every new way they try to control things people will invent new ways of bypass. And since we are moving towards a borderless society and no nations world there will not be any country anymore.
They can and will work side by side the fiat and the new digital currencies. Of course the banks will adjust eventually they are smart. But with no nations world that central authority is more being removed. How far you can take that it's a good question. The term money is interesting because what we are doing here on Steemit is exchanging value. And that value is then being converted into digital "currency".
We are empowering people with technology so this was bound to happen eventually. The authority now becomes ourselves since we have so much power with these magical machines we call phones. But there will be a generation war since older people find it annoying that new technology is here and how it's changing so fast how things work.
We are moving towards a world with less ownership and more sharing. This will annoy people too that are highly invested in their house, car or any older system. But the truth is they can both work side by side in this world. The world is a big enough place for many ways of doing things. Especially now when world population going to 10 billion!
I guess my point was if the backbone of crypto is based on exchanging it into fiat currency it is in the hands of the governments to allow it, all they have to say is our country will not allow our currency to be part of this system and block / make it unlawful to have those transactions within their countries.
The ball is in their hands.
I think there is a general misuse of crypto versus "fiat". I appreciate when people realize there is fiat and commodity. I see crypto as a paperless fiat (I like the use of unregulated sub-fiat, and the chicken bartering example, in your comments).
I think the value of the crypto is in the decentralization that make taxation difficult, and the exchange opportunities. When there are lots of currencies, there is more chance to speculate correctly on value swings. But at the end of the day, the buyers need to hand over the money in the form that sellers expect.
If a government locks up the conversions, or decides to tax the exchanges such that their fees become unbearable, then the liquidity risk will scare people out of the market.
Yes i agree I think that the gov sorta ignored it all until vast sums of money ran through the system, that is money that is not in their own crypto system called the stock market 8 }
Now that they are taking a look at it and know in the end it has to be converted to fiat that is where the taxes will be. These taxes will be placed on all products purchased and bled into the price of the product with no way around it unless the merchant wants to pay your taxes on it. I see crypto as a mini stock market with no commodity backing sort of a poker game between friends.
Crypto is not a commodity and is backed by fiat
Fiat is not a commodity
Fiat however is backed by commodities.
The GOVs are taxing on end game now.
Example - you buy a 500k home with crypto converted to fiat well that transaction has to go through a bank the GOV has that info that is not a problem until on your taxes you report a 20k income... Then it becomes a big red light. IRS says errr where ya get the 500k last yr to buy a house and where is the tax statement on your income ???? Very hard to keep the eyeballs of the GOV, State, and locals tax laws off the purchase.
The problem I see will be on the inside of the blockchain where for the yr all that use it will have to claim capital gains and pay taxes on per yr. That is what will disrupt the setup. The sharp ups and downs of the blockchain could put you in a situation where you make millions by the end of December pay taxes on it and by January its crashed to nothing. This sharp movement is a result of no commodity backing. If it had a commodity backing it would level out the spikes a lot.
Once converted to fiat it becomes stable based on the dollar or euro ect backed by commodities to make it somewhat stable.
Ideally yes they could do that, totally agree with you. But the countries that use force in history has that worked well? Usually what happens then is another nation can come in and out compete the other by offering more freedom.
What happens if they use too much force is that it will be bad business and PR for the nation as a whole. Best they can do is to offer a low tax incentive or they may cause a brain drain effect where the smart and wealthy leave the country for another place.
The only thing you can't buy with fiat for the moment is food but that will probably be possible very soon in the future. So you will not even have to trade crypto into fiat.
I suspect we will see massive drops in value of crypto because of fear but that it will after some time start to rise again. There is just too many people involved right now to stop it. People are invested and think something has value then it has value because people think so.
very informative post for steemains thanks for share.😊😊
It's funny that you can have fiat money, value coming from counterfit proof paper compared to crypto which is much harder to forge and has real cost to produce. Which one would you call a fraud?
Thank you for this post, I had the same question in my mind, where does the value come from? The points I took away that I will use when I explain to friends and family from this are:
I am new to this, but I will place some of my time and energy towards this notion, its worth a try as it may be truly transformational to humanity over time.
what about the classic "crypto has a limit while fiat can be unlimited"?
give me the moneyy
Really nice explanation, finally could understand it fully.