They're all collectivists to me. I see very little difference between them when it comes to individual liberty. They just have different motivations for their use of power over others.
Yes, we are in agreement then if you are only for the use of violence in self-defense. There is a lot of violence going on recently by lots of different people for lots of different reasons though. It isn't in self-defense either.
A friend of mine explains this situation pretty well. He's not an anarchist and still believes the government should provide certain "services." He said he's okay with flag destruction by people, but he still thinks they are assholes for doing it. He won't threaten or use violence against them either.
I'm fine with that from him also. That's two people expressing their beliefs and opinions without using violence.
We're on the same page then... I think. Though I firmly believe the Antifa crowd is modern day brownshirts attempting to silence opposing ideas through threats of violence or intimidation.
I'm not sure that they realize they're being 'handled' into kicking a beehive. This same pattern has played out many times in history.
There are more people who believe in individual liberties and self defense (who own firearms) than there are Antifa-types who believe that words can be violent unto themselves, which makes their 'preemptive self-defense' justifiable... and many of them are neither armed or experienced in violent conflict.
In short, the types of people leading those movements are walking them into a very bad situation. I would prefer anyone wearing masks in all black carrying an Antifa flag to be considered an open domestic terrorist arm, particularly given their recent 'demonstrations' which generally end up being riots.
This is one option. The other is what Hamburg looked like this past weekend... or worse.
These days you never know with protestors. They could have been hired with cash by political operatives. Soros has been rumored to be paying some at certain events as one example.
There's not many people in the world that deserve death, but that dude is at the top of my list. I'm pretty sure its been confirmed that he's dumped tons of cash into paying protesters.
He also dumped tons of money into Media Matters/CorrectTheRecord/Shareblue, which ran a psyops campaign within the United States during the election under David Brock to derail threads, spread rumors, etc.