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RE: Cultural Revolution Redux

in #life8 years ago

so what about those who are protesting in nonviolent ways and actually holding on to culture? sure there are those out there who go out of their way to set fire to the order of things but there are countless others who don't and are getting blamed for the ones who are. it's about humanity as a whole. not right or left. when you point the finger and go out of your way to stigmatize others then offer no solution then it's not helping. it only makes things worse.
the problem is people and blame... lets call it what it is... blame... division is the real problem... on the other hand if people respected others for who they are and their choices then there wouldn't be these problems. so how can you be a part of the solution?

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I started a reply, and it grew out of proportion. Since this is an open conversation, I've decided to let Steemit be the judge of my post. Here is the reply.
https://steemit.com/life/@lifeworship/cultural-revolution-redux-reply-to-comment

well. it's not gone unnoticed... you surely realize that not all leftists are bad. just like not all Muslims are bad... not all people are bad... all anyone can ask for is fair and equal treatment and when I see posts like this frankly it's disappointing. why might you ask? because it breeds division... Americans. left or right are still Americans.. newly landed immigrants and refugees are still Americans... ultimately still human beings with human circumstances. when you paint people with a broad brush
you miss the little details that make them great. this is why iv un-followed you. lastly posts like these only serve to breed negativity... you see the whole point is this... all people are deserve to be treated equal and fairly. all people have the right to the pursuit of life liberty and happiness. you cant just throw out the majority because of the few... that's not how life works... that's not how we solve the problems of the world. fear does not ever fix or repair issues...
do you not see that?...
the more you shove people away the less likely the chance you have to hear their story, or understand their reasons behind their life, if you cannot accept others for their differences how can you possibly accept your own flaws?...

You're pretty pissed. Please explain to me who I've unfairly demonized with a broad brush. If I make broad generalizations I am doing so as a conversational shorthand to get a point across in a timely fashion. Someone is doing the violence. They are doing this as a result of a combination of things that we can identify. How can we maintain individual rights and stop the violence? If you self identify as a leftist and witness the results of your ideology as being fire and mayhem, what do you do? Defend the ideology that produced it because to face the flaws in ourselves is negative? I usually go back to the beginning a find the action in the dynamic that spawned the error. I'm not always successful, but I do try to be methodical about it.
If I am advocating the violation of We The People's individual rights, then I want to know about it. What am I missing, or failing to communicate correctly?

I think the unfollow is unfortunate. I will try to learn what I can in the remaining nested comments. I think that you may hold the key in a frustration of communication that I have been trying to track down. I used to think it a lack of tact. I think it is something else. I lack the knowledge to tread lightly enough on the sense of negativity of some, so as not to cause offense. I have tried to discover it's aspect, but usually drive the person off before I can grok it in it's entirety.

There are negative subjects in the world. I do not know how to reach solution without demonstrating the problem exists. If you do, tell me, please.

not pissed at all rather a slave to principal, unity,human dignity and integrity.
there are those of us in the left who are dead set against violence and entirely for ethics and reason. the fact remains that political ideology is not the culprit the individuals who do not follow within the law, are. sure there are tons of people who dislike the current electoral choice. but anyone worth their salt doesn't go out and smash something to prove a point. because it never ever proves a point.. it is not fair or nice to label an entire group of people based on the actions of some... it's also not dignified to present the facts as such if the truth is quite the opposite. don't let yourself get sucked in or be fooled. people who tell you it's us vs them are ignorant to that which is beyond their own prejudices and narrow scope... as for solutions
here is a solution, get to know people, learn to understand their views by asking honest and sincere questions. empathize. perform a random act of kindness whenever you have the chance to without an expectation attached.
the whole issue is that division closes all doors to communication.
in reality when you put down the notion of us vs them we are more alike as a people then we are different. but it's diversity that makes a people strong not fear, assumptions, generalization and hatred.
you may not agree with a person's ideology but at the end of the day every person has a right to their ideology. if that has not been made clear then there is nothing to be gained by replying back to me. wisdom is sadly lost on those who only act on what they are told...

Wow, so I was correct in thinking that you don't have what it takes to hash this out.

I went back and reread your comments. Here I am, trying to communicate honestly, and I failed to notice the amazing number of logical fallacies assumptions leveled against me, one right after another. I wouldn't have even noticed until you accused me of the same, then I realized, Saul Alinsky 101, "accuse others of what you do". That's Classic, straight out of Karl Marx or Vladimir Lenin "accuse others of what you do."

How do your beliefs differ from the people doing the rioting, other than the actual rioting? You won't even entertain ideas other than the ones you already have. I have at one time or another, believed all of the things you've stated.

I was forced to give up on every single assertion that you've made, bit by bit, in the last 10 years.

If you are not interested in hearing from me anymore, please do me a favor. There is a little button on the upper right when you pull up my profile page that says MUTE on it, if you could go ahead and click that button, and come back when you're open to some new ideas.

Lates.

last I checked the constitution still said WE THE PEOPLE.

Flagging huh? Just like a marxist to go after your bottom line. Speaking of bottoms, did that last reply increase the hurt of your butt? If you are going to flag over someone not agreeing with your opinion then you've made yourself an adversary for life. Look who's creating division now. I think I'll make a series of posts about it, to inform others how not to act, you know, malicious and vindictive, like a marxist.

if you are going to call a person a marxist you should at least know what it means. kind of like knowing what a leftist means. or a socialist... you are just a child with a temper...