these forms of protection actually work.
i understand that they work, i'm not denying, I'm asking you to look at why, why does it work, can it be seen from a different perspective.
mental diseases and many other issues when in fact they are being attacked.
gives room for victim identity, and that suffering is not of your own creation...
The only time I have encountered someone speaking as you are, it is by someone who has no idea what I’m talking about. They do not do spiritual work, do not feel, so not see, do not hear.
don't take your previous encounter into this one. i am not that person.
This is a perspective of someone who actually takes and does not give.
how do you figure? i give freedom, true freedom, from all dependency, it is all your own doing. waking up to this fact changed my world. it requires nothing but to go inside and be silent and still, to reconnect with the divine inside. there is nothing more liberating than that.
Those who do the work recognize immediately and Know what I’m talking about to be true.
if conditions are created by us, then when others recreate it... it is not proof of anything. there are those that worship darkness that swear by it as well.
When you finally experience the dark someday, I will be here to help.
i've already gone thru it. i just about killed myself to get out. if i hadn't discovered the divine connection we all have... i wouldn't be here. because I saw no way to happiness, but with Faith I found Truth... and that truth has grown inside me, and like you know what you know, I know what I know from experience. I am not debating, you are not debating, that is clear, we are discussing each others perspectives. mine encompasses yours, yours denies mine, i find that very interesting. mine doesn't need defence, it just needs recognition that we are all divine creators of our own world. it will always be true, no matter what.
I am glad you are happy with your path, if you find my opinion offensive I can stop posting here. I simply write what my perspective is. I am very blunt, I am direct, and I don't mean anything personally. i do hope I am clear and concise.
If I may chime in here. @klevn I really see your point of view. I agree we need to see the bright side of things and there are many good things.
I was introduces to "dark things" so to speak a few years ago. I don't seek them out. I am as positive as I can be. I work hard on being neutral because I know I can choose how I react to any situation. With that said I also see that there are always two sides to everything. There is no light without dark, positive without negative etc. Energy is the same there are two sides.
There is more going on in this world than most people realize. Maybe there are some of us that are here to witness and deal with this so that others don't have to.
In the end I have my reality, you have yours and @eaglespirit has hers. They may interchange and they may not. Each however is real (in my opinion). Perception is an amazing thing.
i don't think there is an opposite to God/source. there is no opposition, and I think this is a very big point. God can't lose. The light doesn't ask darkness to leave, you turn it on, darkness is gone. it was never really a thing, just a condition.
yes, and I'm saying my way of creating reality is preferable because it gives all the power to you, and removes all the power from would be attackers.
i'm seeking to end victim identity of all types. i'm no saint, i'm just a man doing his best given what I understand, but logic is my strong point... and boiling down concepts to their core truth is what I do. here I'm simply reacting from that point of view, given the way I see the world, wouldn't it be better if... we did it this way or that way?
and I feel I can defend my ideas, because they are logically sound, and speak to my heart. i'm totally willing to adjust my thinking when confronted with new life experience.
people just get so caught up in their ideas that it feels like a death when they are challenged. i've been letting go much of my own ideology, i too get so caught up. now I'm trying to return without the same ego investment, perhaps i'm still failing at that.
take care, thanks for the response.
You are not challenging me at all, I see right through your posts and eventually Maybe in your evolvement you will understand. At this point you are not there yet. I read you like an open book. All you are doing is spreading narcissistic behavior on my post. If you wish to speak about your experience then post your own info. If you had respected my request you would not have argued or thoughts yoh were teachings am expeeinced Teacher. No respect at all. You are not clear and concise you are argumentative and Antagonistic. Period. That said, leav ethis Space and move on.
you call me antagonistic, you maybe right, but with each of your posts, you are challenging me, calling me out, saying I don't know what I am talking about. I've never said that about you.
this is a superior attitude, you are looking down on me, and yes my ego took offense, it attack, as egos do. i'm sorry. some part of me thinks i'm doing good by pointing things out.
i'm sorry you took offense, I will work on my approach, i realize my language is overly combative, I don't know where i got that from, I will work on my tone.
take care dear eaglespirit, I will leave your space.
Thanks for the wonderful chat. Much to ponder.
Much love and light
@carey-page, it may be perspective however I find more that have lived what I have than not. Others tend to no time really ne who they think they are. Empaths, psychics just Know. the Love And Light people are not real.
my awakening happened after 9-11-01 .. i don't call myself anything. it is what I feel is true.
my understanding includes you, yours excludes me.