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RE: Discrimination, Objectification And Exploitation of Women Dominates Our Culture. We Live In Patriarchy - The Facts For Patriarchy Deniers

in #life8 years ago (edited)

"This'll be my last post, but I just wanted to say that you are a perfect example of the hypocritical feminist. You keep calling me out for using supposed logical fallacies, when the very first thing you did in this entire thread was use an ad hominem fallacy"

I clearly stated that I'm going to use ad hominem before using it. There is no hypocrisy in honest informing someone about using logical fallacy, so your current argument/logical fallacy is invalid (you just used type of ad hominem called "appeal to hypocrisy")

"You ask people to have conversations and to try and convince people, but you refuse to do so yourself. (I can only assume because on some level you know that your beliefs don't hold up when confronted face-to-face)"

Nowhere in my post I said that I try to convince anyone. This post is meant to be "an informational bomb" as help for anyone who wants to debate thiss issues with anyone. I clearly stated that, I'm not here to convince/change anyone. I just share the information and facts. It is up to people to read and explore and hopefully change their views."
I also said that I don't have time for Skype as I already spend enough time on Steemit. I mentioned in the post that I created Steemit "feminism" channel. Users are welcome to join it and have debates.

"You list off all the discrimination against women in society, but won't mention any of the proven discrimination against men. And when these things are pointed out, you say that feminism is only supposed to focus on women's rights...."

This post is about discriination of WOMEN, not men. FEMINISM IS ABOUT DISCRIMINATION OF WOMEN NOT MEN. IF SOMEONE CREATES FEMINIST POST/ARTICLE, IT MEANS THAT THEY FOCUS ON THIS TYPE OF DISCRIMINATION. Same as activists figthing against discrimination of Native American (as an example) focus on this particualr ethnic group, not on Irish immigrants.
Word Feminism comes from French "feminisme" (womanhood) so it refers to women not men. It is not a priority of feminist activism to focus on discrimination of men. Although, like I said laready, many feminists point out or fight against discrimination of men too - AS I MENTIONED 3 TIMES ALREADY, THAT I GAVE EXAMPLES OF IT IN THE END OF MY ARTICLE. THE PART WHICH YOU PERSISTENTLY REFUSED TO ACKNOWLEDGE.

"which is not only contradictory to your own post, but also contrary to what most feminists claim-again, hypocritical."

Read the above answers in this comment.

"You list off all the discrimination against women in society, but won't mention any of the proven discrimination against men. And when these things are pointed out, you say that feminism is only supposed to focus on women's rights, which is not only contradictory to your own post, but also contrary to what most feminists claim-again, hypocritical"

Like I explained above, there has been no single men's right group which actualyl focused on fighint for men's rights by focusing on the actual root causes of the discrimination (social-systemic issues). They instead all seem to have focused on attacking feminists for different reasons, such as protecting patriarchal traditions of male/female roles (men work, women cook and breed etc), their right to objectification (using fallacious "it's man's nature" argument), etc.

"I don't even necessarily disagree with a lot of things in your post, but no rational person can take this seriously when you ignore the problems that men also face, and then proceed to demonize the men's rights groups that are trying to address them".

Refer to my other answers in this comment.