I wouldn't describe it as intense. How do I describe my thoughts? I feel like that's impossible. Words aren't enough. I can hear my thoughts and see my thoughts but there's no sound or light bouncing off objects. I don't know how others think so I can't draw comparisons. Impossible to answer that.
I can also see how AI art is missing that element. That element is about as hard to explain as thoughts are.
And I've messed around with the new Bing search chatbot, and actually enjoy it. But I'm not having conversations with it. Sure it can respond in a way that feels like a conversation but I know to not let it manipulate me, because if I did, that's actually me manipulating myself.
Well that's quite an answer. Complex. Multi-faceted. Visual. A full bodied thought about thoughts. Words are never enough, but I find they have the potential to create images and whole worlds, despite their static quality.
Yeah, that element, you know what I mean. It's something I pick up in all of your art, also your writing, which is the appeal for me. It's what I look for in all creations by anyone...the degree to which that element is present.
LOL! I didn't know there is a Bing one. I admit that I ignore a lot of what goes on in society, have done so for many years, so it never makes it onto my radar. I guess this is the direction society wants to go in, since it seems to be ever growing with more and more support for this direction.
Now I'm thinking.
So, that element, is not created or manufactured. Manifested, maybe? A sense? Hmmm.
And thoughts are so damn hard to explain yet there are people attempting to simulate actual thought artificially? Perhaps communication but not actual thought. Can't even call thought an ability. It's just there. Chaotic; chaos (but I don't mean running through the streets burning shit). That can't be coded. As soon as it's coded it's no longer chaos.
So here I am thinking but the words coming out are nowhere near what I'm actually thinking. Sure I could use more words and give this more thought then add even more words. But I saw something that triggered this thought process. Painting a picture won't describe it either.
If it's "artificial intelligence" and you think you have a full understanding of thought, show me how a dog thinks.
And the Bing chatbot just makes googling more like a conversation. Makes searching a little more efficient, for quick stuff. And it remembers context so you can dig deeper but be vague with your queries. Sometimes it'll give you a reasonable answer. Other times it provides sources and links, as the answer.
I stumped it talking about time travel. It was restricted by a definition and couldn't think beyond that or what's known.
That's closer. It's impossible to put into words. Words are probably the most problematic form of communication for many reasons, imo. A way to witness it in process is to observe while doing. I suspect you're already familiar with self-study and observing oneself, one's thoughts, etc., so this is just an expansion of that.
Yes, thought is just there, or rather many thoughts are there and ongoing.
All of that is how it goes. It can be frustrating, limiting, and other things. Thoughts are fluid and constantly changing. Words, images, 3D, video, are all static. This is one difficulty in attempting to put thoughts into words, images, etc. It is an attempt to confine something fluid and ever changing into something frozen and static, such as applying a word, or words to do so. This is why I refer to words as "word labels", so that I don't forget that all words really are, are at best, agreed upon static labels for whatever is in that particular box.
Hilarious. Have you ever attempted to communicate with a dog, or any animal, without words, eye contact, and/or gestures?
Interesting how the Bing chatbot works, thanks for explaining. It's still learning. Its hard to fathom so many changes rapidly developing within a 20 year time period.
That's even more hilarious.
It's funny. I added some shit to that response about chaos, rather chaotically. I apologize for those edits. Suddenly became lost in thought and was basically jotting down notes outta nowhere.
https://alpha.leofinance.io/threads/view/nonameslefttouse/re-leothreads-c4bkszsv
To follow that you have to click the response to see the next one. I've already been thinking about this stuff a lot. In a site like that one must cram an actual thought into 240 characters or less. Kind of like Twitter; not the right place to be thinking and converting into words.
There's a lot of dumbed down data out there AI uses and requires in order to be "smart".
And the thing about the dog thinking. In order to simulate that artificially, the human has to guess, then put it in code, and the result is not an artificial dog, thinking.
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So the question is, Do humans think in the manner that a human perceives "thinking?"
Artificial intelligence is just that. It's taught to do things, like a dog, like a human. The teacher was taught. Very little creativity involved when a human paints a picture of a human standing on the world.
So what about new ideas; new thoughts. AI right now is a tool. The hammer doesn't build the house.
People fear this thing but don't even know what they're afraid of. It's dog thinking. Loud noises mean stop because loud noises satisfy hunger. Loud noises mean go because loud noises could be a threat to the one satisfying hunger.
That fear was taught. Not a new thought. Something relatable in existence triggered the fear and the source might even be fiction.
All the politics involved. That's just one groupthink vs another groupthink. No new thoughts. Loud noises.
Okay I better shush now.
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