Luke, I hate to say you’re arguing in bad faith, but...you kinda are. When you ask questions I answer them directly even when I know you won’t like the answer. When I ask questions you instead create a strawman and slay it (at least you have this time) or else answer a question I’ve not asked.
Of COURSE someone who has communicated that they don’t which to be touched shouldn’t be touched by anyone with that fore knowledge. Do you seriously think I’ve ever argued otherwise? That’s not my point at ALL.
And of COURSE there are instances where even a pat on the back can be a violation of self sovereignty. But again, that’s not my point!
My point is that 99 percent of the time, people HAVEN’T given the other person fore knowledge that they don’t wish to be touched. And 99 percent of the time, a simple pat on the back is NOT taken as a threat or a violation of sovereignty or as something improper. So, rather than deal with the general rule, you keep diverting to the exceptions to that rule so as to avoid my questions.
My question involves the “normal” circumstances where the guy doesn’t know that the women doesn’t want to be touched. In that instance, why is it safe to assume that a pat on the back is okay but a pat on the butt is not? Please go back and read my rant again and try to answer the questions that I actually asked.
You KNOW that I’m the first to defend women who are being abused, who are treated in ways they don’t wish to be treated. Ironically it was ME who interceded to help protect @techslut from berniesanders! So, again, please stop focusing on the truly abusive instance where you and I are in complete agreement and deal with the far more common instances that I’ve outlined multiple times now.
Your raised the issue of implied consent. It’s a good point, but again it avoids my question. My question is why is there “implied consent” for back pats but not butt pats in instances where the patter has no fore knowledge? Isn’t the answer just BECAUSE SEX? And isn’t that a conditioned (through trauma) response rather than a “natural” and healthy one?