"Are you seriously this deluded thinking that Valueplan would simply give me money."
After telling me:
"...I received the funds for photography I didnt actually photograph anything. Shocker! Im not a photographer. The funds I received for Bitbasel, Im not actually organizing Bitbasel! The funds I got for Techex, im not actually the organizer of Techex!"
"My personal wallet..."
"Omg, you genuinely believe that all that money went to me personally?"
"Not even 1 cent did."
So, you're telling me they just gave you money, but that I'm deluded for believing you when you tell me they just gave you money personally, but that you didn't even receive 1 cent personally.
You received all that money personally, in your personal wallet. You originally claimed you were paid for organizing Hivefest, but now you're saying you lost $100. Are you surprised that these contradictory claims aren't credible? What would you think reading them?
Considering I actually can think, it would be very clear to me.
Receiving the funds to pay for stuff thats listed in the memo and getting paid for stuff personally are two very different things.
You do seem to be thinking on your feet here. I've got to hand you that. Despite your contradictory statements, and occasional ad hominems flung at me, you demonstrate a capacious ability to switch stories rapidly, and with great conviction.
However, I see that you are claiming you personally received that money and then paid it to others, so I'm looking. We'll see if you did or not. Instead of just stating that out front, you said you never got paid any money personally, despite ~70k being sent to your account.
You could just be an inchoate, lying asshole instead of a thief, but I'll never find that out from anything you say. Just talking about you talking is confusing. I'll have to see if ~70k was disbursed from your account last month.
You are literally an insane person, my god.
Im done here.
Run out of insults? You certainly didn't provide any clarity regarding the massive expenditures of funds you are receiving. All you have done is reveal your lack of integrity and good character by flaming me for daring to ask you what you did with our money.
You see the DHF doesn't belong to you, and it doesn't belong to the whales, or just to the voters on proposals. It belongs to Hive, to the whole community, so if it's being stolen by you, or anyone else, you're stealing from the whole community, and we have a right to demand to know exactly what you're spending and what you're spending it on.
You remind me of the guy that stole my cellphone, and I'm sure everyone can remember similar incidents they've experienced when some thief proclaims they're as pure as the driven snow and only a psycho conspiracy theorist would ever even suspect them of theft, which is all you've done.
You and the well named @guiltyparties are doing exactly what every thief caught with their hand in the cookie jar does, which is anything but provide receipts that prove their innocence.
And that's all you'd have to do to prove you're not a thief, a liar, and a fraud. But you'd rather rant and spew vitriol instead of simply providing proof you didn't steal a thing.
Just because you don't answer my questions here doesn't mean you won't have to answer questions. I'm a lot less trouble than some other folks that will be wanting to know what's happened to Hive's development fund that you have been spending tens of thousands of dollars worth monthly. But, not answering me was your choice.
You made the bed you'll be lying in, since you're done lying on my blog.
Heard tht mic drop from here. LoL nice.
Ok, so I looked. I don't see any payments to any photographers, or to any event host.
What did you do with the money?
You're misreading what he's saying. He's saying his role is to take the funds and pay them to a vendor. If he gets a transfer that reads "photography" in the memo, that doesn't mean he's the photographer. He is the person who takes that money and pays the photographer. Same goes for Hive merch. He's not sitting there sewing shirts, he's buying them and paying the manufacturer. He's a volunteer, like all the others.
He didn't say that out front. It took him hours and hours to grudgingly get around to saying that. What he said originally was that he didn't get paid, and lo and behold there's ~70k paid into his account.
What a fucking clusterfuck. You assholes are going to get the State Department seizing the DHF if you don't start following some rational accounting procedures. Then you can beg them to look at receipts while wearing an orange jumpsuit in Gitmo.
Optimistically assuming noone's lying, and that it's just people everywhere, not every one has a great skill in using perfect style and wording straight off the first post.. I can totally see how he could say "I wasnt paid" and how it was not, in fact, lie.
It always amused me, how much stuff people are doing wihtout proper documentation proving/backing it all up, just riding on a belief that days/weeks/months later people will just believe them for word that it was all good. But on the other hand, "proper accounting" is only good if you ever have a "proper auditor" verifying that. "Normal people" won't dive in, or even will end up with wrong conclusions. I don't know how to all-encompasing trasparent view into the moneyflows and actual work done. In a few places on the network I saw people doing extensive reportage/coverage, photography, invoice scans, but looks like there's usually a separate person/team needed to do that while the actual team does the actual work. I'd love to leave a constructive thought here, but I'm out of idea how to provide both a decent sufficient at-glance and in-depth coverage easily with no crippling effort..
I spend thousands of dollars of other people's money all the time. I get receipts. It's a simple way to never have these problems, for my clients to know I never stole their money.
I've never faced this kind of refusal to document expenditures of other people's money without there having been fraud. People that didn't steal showed proof they didn't steal. People that weasel around it, deny there's any reason to suspect them of theft, well, they're always thieves.
God bless you for this thread...
it really speaks volumes about hive and the fact that it's a shitcoin run by a few who really believe in themselves... Come to BLURT and bring some friends.