An Apology & Lisk Inside

in #lisk9 years ago (edited)

This is a little something for those who want to understand Lisk and for those who had a bit of a clash with Lisk community members "trying" to defend Lisk. An apology in behalf, and the truth about the inside of Lisk for those who don't follow.

First, An Apology

I've seen many FUD, many statements against Lisk and many of the community members make a very big mistake of leaving an even more negative mark for Lisk by lashing out or by being even more ignorant. As one of the community ambassadors, in behalf of them, I'm sorry. Apart from all that some community members would spam Lisk almost everywhere in the internet, which is not right either. If your view on Lisk and its community is damaged forever, well I guess there's nothing I can do about that, but even though, I'm sorry.

I admit that even my view on some members within the community is sort of.. iffy. Some view Lisk as a holy grail of the crypto world, in some ways it is great where in some people like @dan don't really understand, but that's alright.

Why?

I saw that @dan was saying that Lisk is harder, more complex and less friendly for developers.. well here's an answer for you... It's Node.JS. If you were a developer you would understand that Node is a reaally nitty-gritty-get-your-hands-dirty language. I mean-- it's javascript. We all know why jQuery was made, to make javascript easier. Now Node.JS is javascript on server-side steroids. So we all have to understand that. And even though it's really that hard, everything is pretty much still javascript and you can learn it if you put your heart into it. And despite it being that hard and extremely badly documented (I'll talk about this more down below) Everything you can think of can still be turned into a decentralized application (or blockchain application, however you want to put it)

Lisk Inside..

First, I'd like to talk about this in a brutally honest way for everything inside Lisk.

Documentation. It's really bad, and most of the tutorials and support in general for developers is not that great at all. We have all this marketing about making dapps and making this and that and javascript, but really even the developers sort of have a hard time if you're not part of the extremely elite developers (really only 3 of them, including Oliver, who is part of Lisk core). I was part of the dapp concept competition and won with the entry Dust - Decentralized Trust on the Blockchain. I was waiting for some help, because admittedly I am not good at Node.JS. I mean damn, it's really hard, especially when the docs you're reading is very application specific and if you're trying to do something else, what the documentation teaches you to do is not what you should do for your application. Where to start? I don't know myself. I agree with the difficulty, @dan

Community. Lisk extremists are everywhere, and some of these Liskers (let's call them that from now on) are part of the elite in the community. For some reason, Lisk is now seen as an extremely competitive.. Career? Some people are going out of their way to be part of the 101 delegates who will generate 5 LISK every few minutes. Some even make promises to be paying out Lisk they earn to the voters and completely monopolize the security of the system. Now there are even alliances. I'd call them mafias. There's this somewhat secret group called the trusted delegates where a member of the community acts as the supreme ruler of the to-be 101 delegates and decides on who's trusted and who isn't by making votes most people don't really vote on. No offence mal, I love you, I've always found it weird how elitist we were inside that group.

Core. Don't get me wrong guys I love Max, Oliver and Joel. I love Lisk. But there's really a very big problem with how they're running things. They say they moved out of Crypti to make Lisk move faster with a corporate scheme, but nothing is moving, and the only fixes they're doing are huge mistakes on their part because none of it should have come DURING LAUNCH. They keep going to all these seminars but overlook their own product? Apart from that, there are so many delays because of these mistakes and the community seems to be so okay about it. It's not professional, it feels so weird how they can be a registered company and be like this. Or are they a registered company? I wouldn't know. Bounties and even prizes from the competition 3 months ago haven't been sent yet and are extremely delayed.

Lisk isn't perfect, but it is admittedly a great step

I just had to pour my heart out on this one. But I do believe Lisk the way to go, and I prefer it in every way over Ethereum. I hope I didn't anger anyone, except push everyone to do better and not judge by the cover, that sort of sh!t. I love all of you, hope we get going as Lisk, as Steem and as basically users of Crypto. It's not a competition, it's a currency.

Regards

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Bounties cant be paid until translations are complete, HQ is waiting on those who signed up for it as country ambassadors, and lisk may have launched, but updates continue to flow, and bugs continue to be eliminated. It took ETH over a year after launch just to have a wallet, and it's Vitalik's 2 year goal to be where we are with DPoS. So careful not put them up on a pedistal too high there in comparison... Lisk has just been born, and they don't even have the ICO funds just yet.
Alliances are a natural formation of the Community, and Max, Joel, Oliver don't have any special favor towards said groups. They have stated many times how they will be voting for delegates and stress delegate proposals be posted for review. All this stuff right now you site is meaningless until forging is well underway, and the masses arrive. Every delegate will be doing whatever he or she can to become a part of forging, so of course it's totally natural for groups and even pools to form.
Also, why would you expect them to NOT go to a local major cryptocurrency event? That's just silliness .

Man, where did I say this:

Also, why would you expect them to NOT go to a local major cryptocurrency event?

By the way, all of this wasn't made from scratch.. it came from Crypti, so of course it was really fast to get where they are..
They're essentially Crypti with better funding and corporate scheme. Keep an open mind, stop being exactly who I described above.

My critique of lisk is done from a desire to improve all solutions. I was disappointed when I dug into the docs. Hopefully we can all work together to improve the basic technology.

To be clear, the lisk approach is the same as steem and bts, just implemented in JS.

I agree, thanks for understanding and I hope we all move on from the slight misunderstanding the community had with the others

everything has no choice but to move on. I hope lisk works out but I listen to people like this guy ^^ and others like him who are really always trying to make things better.

Now with that said, lisk is based on bts 1.0 ehich was moved away from for various reasons. My big question is how it is going to scale and how they are going to make it as dev friendly as possible