There is no self to be found in the flux of phenomena ;-) I guess what suffers is ignorance that clings to phenomena and there is no self to be found as well...
I was not taught the self no self arguments so I cannot help in this area. What I was taught was the basics, develop equanimity through meditation and integration into daily life.
When one is completely calm take a steady look at the witness to all this stuff <3
To find your answers you need to talk and work with a quailfied teacher and find this out for yourself. I cannot teach you how an apple taste unless you eat it yourself .