Delegating SP is Not for Everyone
This question keeps coming up on my posts and so I want to share my thoughts and give you some accurate information on the benefits and shortcomings of delegating your SP. Yesterday, I explained why some people would be well served by Leasing SP (essentially borrowing it for a period of time), but let's look at the flip-side of the equation.
The most common question about Leasing and Delegating SP is, "Which is more profitable?" The answer is simple - BOTH.
The key is determining what your goals are with your Steemit account, your level of activity on the platform, and what types of returns you want to get for your time and investment (you should be measuring both in some sort of monetary value).
If you're on the Steemit platform for purely altruistic reasons and believe that you are saving the world by donating your SP and money to the cause, feel free to delegate your SP to me. I promise to brighten people's lives with it. However, there are a number of other alternatives for you that I will point out here.
I speak a lot about understanding your true purpose and commitment levels here on Steemit before making financial decisions and the area of delegation of SP is no exception. I delegated a large portion of my SP a couple months back and it was a poor decision. Not because delegating isn't profitable, but based on my daily activity, I could have done much, much more positive things for my account and those of my followers during that time. Let me explain how.
Reasons to Delegate SP
- You're not active daily or 4 days a week minimum.
- You have at least 100 SP, but probably more is better or it isn't interesting.
- You're looking for passive income/return on investment for money invested in Steemit.
- You want to help others on Steemit, but don't really have the time or know how to do so. Your money/SP could go to communities and services that will do that for you.
- You don't have the time or inclination to micro-manage your own Steemit account. I wish more people would just admit this.
- You don't feel comfortable self-voting for either ethical or peer-pressure reasons.
All of these reasons are completely valid and I support ALL of them. That is why I am writing this post. I would suggest that several of these factors should apply to you BEFORE you decide to delegate your SP.
Here is an additional reason that I will add to the list because I use this reason to justify the 800 SP that I delegate to @qurator - My Absolute Most Favoritist Community Filled with a Plethora of Awesome-Sauce. Yes, I'm a fan. The reason here - You can get additional daily upvotes greater than your self-vote WHILE helping others that produce QUALITY content.
Yes, I'm on a CAPS kick tonight - sorry. 1 liter of beer in and it's only 7:30 on a Saturday night. Hopefully I can finish this while I still notice the grammatical errors. Otherwise, you're going to think I let my Russian neighbor, Olga, write this.
Reasons You Should NOT Delegate Your SP
- You have very little of it - less than 100 SP.
- You are active daily on Steemit - meaning you post and curate every day or 4 to 5 times a week minimum.
3.You want to control your SP and Voting Power. - Your Focus is on Creating Content - Blogger, Photographer, Artist, etc.
For me, I'm very active on Steemit. I post everyday and write hundreds of comments each week while curating other people's work or responding to the dozens of thoughtful comments on my posts. Therefore, I need ALL my VP to maintain AND maximize my SP.
However, let's be honest. Many of you don't have the time, energy, or inclination to commit to Steemit at this level and so it might make sense to delegate your SP to get at least something in return on your investment in Steem. That is totally okay with me and I'm glad because it means that I have people willing to lease me their SP.
You've Decided that Delegating SP is a Good Choice for You
Here are some places that you will want to check out as a place to delegate or market your SP for lease. There are many more, but these are places that I think are good and where I would go first if I decided to delegate again in the future.
- Minnowbooster - Here you can make an offer and post it for others to see. If they like your offer, they will take it. When you delegate through Minnowbooster, they handle all the transactions for you and send you a daily payment. Here is a screenshot taken today.
The top offer based on the best Annual Percentage Rate (APR) is @mythologyupvote who wants to lease 78 SP for 4 weeks for a cost of 2.667 Steem. Any person who accepts his offer will get 2.4 Steem. If someone is willing to delegate that amount for his use (78 SP for 4 weeks), they will accept that offer and Minnowbooster will process the delegation. Minnowbooster will also pay the delegator daily an equal amount for 28 days (4 weeks). In this case, the delegator is going to get approximately .086 Steem every day until the delegation ends. Once the delegation ends, there will be a one week "cool down" where nobody will be able to utilize that 76 SP.
I think this is one of the easiest ways to market your SP at the best possible rate of return. Go to Minnowbooster's website for more details here
- @qustodian - Qustodian is the vote bot operated by @qurator for their members. Fortunately, you don't have to be a member to delegate to them, but you can be sure that the people utilizing their bot are producing quality content. Also, their's is not a MEGA bot and the maximum send for them is 0.5 SBD at this point for users of their bot. One cool thing about delegating here is also is that they pay 90% of the profits daily and in SBD to delegators.
This screenshot explains most of it, but you can visit their page @qustodian for more info or go to the Qurator Discord channel and ask one of their moderators. They are very helpful and tell them @energyaddict22 sent you.
- @ebargains - Ebargains is a favorite of mine because they do what they claim (not always the case on Steemit). I use their resteem service, which I will speak about in a couple days when I cover "resteeming". In addition to their resteem service, they operate a bot publicly that can be found at steembottracker.com. They are a fair organization that is sincerely interested in the growth of Steemit and they use proceeds from their bot and resteem services to draw new users to Steemit. Also, they pay 80% of their proceeds from bids to their delegators. Why is the percentage less? Mostly because their are fees associated with being a public vote-bot on Steembottracker in order to maintain that site. Here is some additional info below on @ebargains.
- Smartsteem.com - Smartsteem could easily be listed at number one on this list because I love this guys also. They do run a vote-bot, which you can delegate SP to, but they also allow you to sell votes on through them where you can be more particular about who you give your vote to. They run a "Whitelist" (as does Minnowbooster) where each member has been reviewed for quality content. You can therefore delegate your SP or sell your votes with some higher ethical standards if you have any. You need to visit their site and Discord to get more details on the vote selling possibilities, but SP delegation is as easy as anywhere else. Screenshot below shows projected daily/weekly revenue in STU for someone delegating 500 SP. You can put in whatever number you of SP you like in the calculator and it will provide you an estimate.
There are many other services and vote-bots out there and I'm not suggesting that you stop looking at those others. It's your SP, so you should do your due diligence to get a return you're happy with. However, I trust all these organizations because I have and continue to do business with all of them. Keep in mind, I don't believe I get any referral or affiliate bonuses for suggesting them to you. However, I SHOULD get a ton of bonuses for suggesting all the resources I do so just tell them I sent all these people I sent you and maybe they will show me some love down the road. ;)
Recap and Conclusions
You could have probably skipped right to this part of the post and been just fine because I know my audience and I love you all, but you're all dead ass broke in Steemit terms. That's okay. I'm still here for you and we are all going to build our accounts together. That being said, most of you don't meet the needed criteria for delegating SP. Mostly because you don't have much SP.
Those of you that do meet the criteria for delegating and think it is a good option and know where you want to delegate it, but don't know how. Here is the cool tool put together by @yabapmatt. Yes, that @yabapmatt that created Steembottracker.com and should be on your vote list for witness. Why? Because he's freaking super smart, works his ass off in a normal job, has a family and still does kickass stuff here on Steemit. Also, he's pretty much a regular guy like me. Anyways, here is the link
Breakdown -
You should really have 500 SP or more before you start delegating so you can keep your slider bar. If you want to delegate when you have less, make sure you keep at least 50 SP so you can vote when you do get on Steemit. Make sure you give some of that voting love to me for guiding you. No, joke. You should.
Building your account to 500 SP so that you can sit back and take a passive income is also not a bad plan. Hey, if you have a rich uncle that is looking for a good return on investment and likes crypto, here you go. Delegating SP is much better than leaving it in BTC or, even worse, putting it in a U.S. bank account drawing 1% interest. Even here in Russia, where I get 13% interest in my bank account, I can double or triple that on Steemit just by buying Steem, Powering Up, and delegating it.
There you have it folks. Tomorrow I'm going to walk you through some of these sites with a video and show you exactly how to lease, delegate, or investigate your options. Wish you all the best.
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You have the Minnowbooster explanation backwards. Mythologyupvote wants to pay 2.667 STEEM to lease 78 SP. As the delegator you just look through the list, pick the offer you want, and accept it.
Too many beers. Editing now. lol]
Fixed.Thanks again.
Are you going to do one of these for vote-selling, too?
I am going to have to research the "vote selling". I'm still trying to wrap my head around it on the Smartsteem site. I thought about doing a "test" somehow and see how I like it and then report on the results. Any ideas or thoughts on that?
I haven't done it either, so I don't know. The main advantage I see over delegation is you can turn it on and off whenever you like, whereas once you undelegate you have to wait seven days for the SP to return.
It seems like a nice thing to have if you're going on vacation or something and want to get value for your vote while you're not here.
You see it exactly as I do. I'm taking a month long vacation in October (maybe 5 weeks) and I know that I will be posting, but probably not everyday so I thought this might be a great tool. I'm going to research it more this week and probably work out some kind of test. I might have my wife use her account to test it out since she isn't very active on Steemit other than to publicly correct my mistakes on Russian history. lol
Thank you once again @energyaddict22. I have bookmarked this post for when I do want to delegate. I go to a very remote area of Zambia about once a year and completely lose contact with 'civilization'. It is a liberating experience but in your words, 'I will be leaving money on the table' and who wants to do that.
Even worse will be that you won't be around to give such wonderful comments on my posts during this trip to Zambia. :(
Planning, evaluating, improving are habits of successful people.
Thanks for the compliment and it is always my pleasure in helping.
Here is one other little aspect of delegation for profit that, for a dweeb, like me makes it, well fun...compounding your return. When I have a minimum profit from my delegations, to buy around 2 Steem, I do and then power up and delegate that. By ruthlessly compounding the profits. I have gone from delegating the profits every 7 or 8 days to now every 2 or 3 days, looking forward to compounding my way to being able to return the profits every day. The goal is grow that SP and slowly and gaining "steem" I am every single day. Admittedly this is serious micro managing your wallet to make it work.
Yes, you are absolutely correct about the compounding effect of delegating. The biggest question is whether one is better served by using their votes to actively grow their accounts through building relationships, self-voting, etc. It is an interesting dilemma for those of us that have the SP. For many of my readers, the lack of SP makes this an easy decision in the short term. Once they have built their accounts up a bit, they will need to look at all their options.
Thanks so much for the thoughtful comment and for stopping by. I hope we can count on seeing more of you. All the best.
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Great inputs and i am an full time Steemian so i don't have plan to delegate the SP at this moment because i am using my Strategies effectively to use my SP because i also do the several comments and upvotes, in my opinion if at this moment i will delegate then i will get less than what i am getting through manual efforts. Thanks for sharing and keep writing the informative subject so that people can get the core knowledge of particular subject so that they can take the analytical actions. Wishing you an great day. Stay blessed. 🙂
Thanks again for stopping by and for your thoughtful comments. I agree with your course of action because I also want to manually curate people and build my network here. Maybe in the future I will change my mind and delegate more. All the best to you.
Welcome and thank you so much. And yes, everything should be productive strategy and we should improvise our strategy time to time because that's the nature of growth. 🙂
Ok... Here I have to think better. I'm selling my vote through smartmarket and it gives me steady sbd and some curation rewards. It seems the best of both worlds, considering you can still have lots of available SP for whatever I want to upvote 100%.
But even if you're not an active steemer, smartmarket can put your sp to work, as much as delegating... So what would be the advantages of delegating?
This is a great comment. I have been discussing the vote selling mechanism with several people and trying to determine whether it is a better way to use your votes and under which circumstances. It is something that I will be running some tests on with some of my SP or perhaps my wife's SP (which is minuscule). I think it looks very interesting, but I couldn't write about it unless I have some hard facts and my own experience.
Perhaps you could share some of your experience and the numbers to help some people? I know you have a great analytical mind based on our earlier discussions so I would trust your evaluation.
Let me know your thoughts. All the best.
Hi! I guess it's difficult to make some tests myself because I only use vote-selling above 80%. It's my way of avoiding wasting VP if it gets too high. If some day I go on vacations, there maybe I can try to see exactly how much profit I can make through vote-selling.
But through smartsteem website there is a revenue calculator, and there you can see vote-selling is just slightly less profitable than delegation. With the advantage you can stop vote-selling whenever you want... And they also have a whitelist so you won't be upvoting crap, supposedly
Thank @zpedro. This is really useful information. I truly appreciate it. all the best to you.
@energyaddict22. Thank you for mentioning me in your publication, and for explaining about SP income. This type of information is very essential for the project I have in mind to be able to help more people at a lower cost of STEEM. I give you a vote
Regards!
It is my pleasure to mention you, but it really was pure chance because you were on the Lease Request page. However, I am very interested in the results you get from your leased SP so please check back and share the info. Glad you found the post useful and wish you all the best.
Your article is detailed and guiding. I recorded it between the source links. Sometimes I rent an sp and I delegate it, but I can't say I do it very consciously. Thank you for your descriptive article 😊
I'll follow your posts. There's so much to learn from you. 😃
Thanks for the comment. I am happy that you found it useful and even happier to see we are both "Jumbotters". Please feel free to share your results of leasing and delegating. I'm always interested in seeing how others are able to benefit from these resources.
All the best to you.
I will follow your useful writings, thank you very much for your good wishes, I hope you will have what you want. I believe the Labor will win. A little strategy is important. I hope it's be beauty for all of us. Thank you very much, jumbot. my friend. 😃
man i love they you explain things. good work. So at the end all comes down to the point of being active or not. Got it, thx
Is that resteem bot I see there oooohhhh :)
my question is . How come I don't see this in the post promotion tab .....Its ok I'll put it there
You put out some really good instructions on different areas in steemit . Some of it is still above my level but it gives me a good reference and better all around knowledge . If we stop learning here we mod is well close our account .
Haha! Yes, I often forget to go to the post-promotion channels to add some exposure. Also, I don't want people to think they have to upvote it. I know I can count on you to show it around though. Thanks for your help.
I will be posting on why I use resteeming and how in the next few days.
It's my pleasure and I am looking forward to reading it . They have been a big help
most informative..thank you!!
Thanks bud! Are we going to get over the 10K hump on BTC? I need your guidance. ;)
I do believe so..but it is going to need (as i wrote) more "basing above 9000"..So much resistance to work off around 10,000..If it stays in this range and "sentiment improves", yes..thanks again!!
@energyaddict22 nice article
Thanks. I'm excited that you stopped by and took a look. I'm going to be writing a post about buying upvotes in the next couple days and @lays is going to be included as one of my favorites. Hope you don't mind the extra exposure. ;)
Gracias por compartir tu conocimiento sobre la delegación de steem power, yo actualmente dispongo de 20SP en mi cuenta por lo que no cumple con los requisitos para poder delegar sp a un curador, sin embargo cuando mi SP aumente y alcance la cantidad de 100sp, sin duda alguna empezare a Delegar SP para generar ganancias, ya que no soy demasiado activo en mi cuenta de STEEMIT, así que gracias por tus consejos, ahora ya se que me convienen mas y cuando hacerlo :).
@gibransalazar7. Si puedes delegar, pero lo recomentable es cuando llegue a 50 SP, en minnowbooster hay quienes solicitan hasta 10 SP por un largo periodo. Pero el minimo es de 50% para que tu cuenta no se afecte para cuando te toque darte voto a ti mismo.
Saludos.
I still like the idea of delegating steem power but I understand your point it has to be over a certain amount to be worth your while.
Yes, it is a big decision that everyone has to make based on his/her own circumstances, goals, and level of activity on the platform. Please keep me updated on how you use delegating (if you do) and what kind of results you're getting. Hope to see you again soon. All the best.
@energyaddict Thank you for asking. I ran some numbers that I hope you will appreciate. 22 days ago I started delegating my steem power to a service called @dolphinbot. I delegated 40 steem power. The past 7 days I have accumulated 0.243 steem, that adds up to .88 cents a week on $110 invested in the 40 steem that I delegated. That .88 cents equates to just under 1% per week 0.008%. Please correct me if Im wrong.
Take .88 cents a week and multiply it by 52 weeks in a year and I get $45.76. $110 as my initial investment makes me $45.76 for the year thats just over a 40% return for the year. Keep in mind this is a very small investment. I think these are great numbers. What do you think?
This is a fabulous return on investment. I agree completely. The question is only if your 40 SP would be more valuable to you if you used it to upvote/curate. These are the dilemmas that mindful people are addressing on Steemit. Unfortunately, money people are considering these things at all. Thanks so much for running the numbers on this. If you don't mind, I'm going to screenshot your comment to share on tonight's post.
sure no problem you helped me with my next post buddy.
Also here is a link with their instructions if your interested they have a little video also. Just trying to be helpful.
https://steemit.com/steemit/@dolphinbot/how-to-earn-25-interest-every-year-passively-with-steemit-and-dolphinbot-step-by-step-instructions
Awesome! Thanks again. I went and visited the link. Very useful. Send me a message when you post your article so I can check it out. I get so many notifications on GinaBot, I worry that I might miss your post.
I'm going to have to investigate further the renting of sp, sounds an interesting option, this series of strategies have expanded my knowledge and my desire to apply them for the short-term success of my account, I appreciate the data, happy night.
Thank you. I'm glad that these posts are useful to you. Please let me know how your experience goes and feel free to ask any questions. I will be happy to help, if I can. Looking forward to seeing you again soon.
Happy Sunday, buddy.
thank you @energyaddict22 for the detailed explanation of how to manage our SP. I plan to delegate qurator because I will be able to get a return on my investment in them. I like their service and their desire to help participants.
Fantastic! Make sure you delegate to the correct place. @qustodian is their upvote bot with 90% return of daily profits. @qurator is the membership account and doesn't pay a return unless you're a member.
Happy Victory Day in advance. I will be at the parade tomorrow here in Piter taking pictures and video.
hopefully with that purpose you become the motivation for the new steemit to build a more successful steemit
More successful Steemit? I'm not sure I understand you. Everyone I know on Steemit is making more than they invested (at least in money). I hope to become a motivating influence on those that wish to utilize the existing system on Steemit to build their accounts and networks of followers/supporters.
The absolutely LAST thing I want to do is create some sort of structural change in the platform, which may undermine my significant investment of money and time.
Thanks for stopping by and commenting.
I would like to introduce this steem to the community by doing the promo-steemrural activities and supporting the activities @ steem-ambassador. Please help you in some of my posts in this promo-steem activities. thank you.
Delegating is an investment in the short, medium or long term; depending on the lapse of time it will generate more profits. It's like the money you put in for a fixed term and earn interest.
Whether you delegate or not, it will depend on the objectives of your company, in our case, on the objectives of your steemit account, of the true availability of the funds, in this case of Steem Power (SP). It is clear that the greater SP delegation, the better income; but, you must take out accounts so that your account is not paralyzed in order to continue browsing, publishing and healing.
For many, who want to project, you can more effectively support your friends and followers and have more acceptance within the community.
Thanks. You have made a nice "recap" of the main ideas of the post. I'm glad you are finding it helpful and I'm even more excited that you're taking the time to comment and add to the conversation. Hope to see you again soon.
Your posts are a goldmine. Not sure if I will ever delegate out once I get large enough to, but this will be a handy reference if I decide I want to. Looks like you got a jump on me with the beer. I don't drink as much as I used to, but actually had a couple last night and watched some Clint Eastwood movies.
Thinking I should have waited to submit my lease request till tomorrow for your video. At first I thought they were trying to force me to use Steem Connect, but after messing around for a few moments I finally resorted to looking for instructions and found them. The calculator they used (at Minnowbooster) was slightly off as well, but not by much. I would however advise people looking to purchase delegation to add a little extra as I luckily did to compensate. Without trying to do the math, add about an extra 3% over what you are wanting.
I think I am going to make a little reference book for my desktop on these posts so I can reference them without searching for them down the road.
Goldmine! Yes, just the compliment that I was looking for. ;) I hope so. I think about this same point also - Will I slow down on my posting and engagement and just delegate at some point and what IS that point?
My biggest fear about these posts is that they will be found in 4 months from now and somehow the platform will have changed and the info will be useless (or at least less useful). Steemit moves fast.
Great write up on the SP delegation, was wondering about this and why people do it, thanks for clearing up some points for me
My pleasure and thanks for stopping by and commenting. Glad to see you here.
I am new at steemit so I am still trying to digest every source of information to help me understand what Steemit is all about.
Having said that I am going to print your post so when I am not online I will be able to study it further.
Your source of information are very important if I am to fully understand Steemit.
Thank you for your hard work that you have put forward.
Thank you for taking the time to read it and comment. I look forward to seeing more of you. All the best.
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Very essential information about delegating SP,i've saved this post for the future when i am more active on steemit.
So i will be able to delegate some of my SP
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You are sharing useful experiences, keep it up, pro!
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I have been getting into minnow booster pretty heavy here lately
Can I delegate SP and still be active? Does that make sense? Or should I just use all my own SP myself? I am busy but I try to make an hour daily to either work on a post or read and comment. I started playing with some of it, votes look good. No cheesy comments so far. I'm going to read about that next. i knew this was going to take a while but I started in December and I'm not getting anywhere. the other post i read really turned on the lightbulb for me. I had a feeling i was going to have to go there but you made it make sense. I also have a solid base of content now. Doing it earlier might not have been that smart? With all the complexities of Steemit, I know everything with click. One of my talents is finding the right people to listen to. Thanks!
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You just said "thanks for sharing" and in your your last 100 comments you used 90 phrases considered to be spam and you made this exact same comment 10 times. You've received 0 flags and you may see more on comments like these. These comments are the reason why your Steem Sincerity API classification scores are Spam: 76.80% and Bot: 6.90%
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delegating and auto-upvoting can be seen as the same support in so many ways. What one Steemian use a delegation for as supposed to simply spreading your vote among all the communities or blogs you like gives you the same outcome.
Thank you so much for the info. Im new to all this and trying to understand it all lol. Aloha 🌺