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RE: Doug Casey and I Destroying Commies On Universal Income

in #money7 years ago (edited)

You're living in the past you mean. Any time you're basing arguments on the way things have been, the way governments do it, what we have/haven't tried before, you're arguing from the past.

Living in the past??? I am telling NOW ... you can not do it NOW! Btw, if I do not see how the past works I will make the same mistakes in the future ... kind of what happens all the time if I see history ... maybe because people think like you.

I've never advocated for government to do anything at all, and neither do many others who have discussed UBI. Anything government can do, voluntary association can do better.

And you talk about dreaming? Where is the place you can do this NOW? Would love to see the voluntary people who really do not hink about they self. Altruism??? Yes maybe in the bible, someone call Jesus... fantasy land. You are hopping for an utopy and time pass and never comeback

humans don't want to compete with each other, take advantage of each other, or otherwise be against others, except where it has been instilled as "right", "normal", or "the only way" by a culture carefully designed by sociopaths.

And talking a bit of sense, but also no sense Even wild animals compete with each other... if you do not do you can not develop your self to the max you can ... it is not studies or writings done for a social scientis sitting at home or in a confortable lab of a capitalist country... it is what I have seen in real live in many countries for my work. Btw, iam not agree with adjectives or "right" or "wrong", I think it is very subjectiv and personal view.

Cities/states/nations are all unnatural fictions,which only serve when a small group wants to keep a much larger group under their control.

I am agree 100%

If you can't build connections with the people around you, then you will never create alternative systems together, your ability to cooperate is hindered, and you have an increased need for "middle men".

Agree also, in Cuba, Brazil, Chile an many poor countries happens like that as far as I have seen (20 years ago and NOW) but because the government control the economy all this conections at the end are subject to this control.

PD: Who lives of dreams, dies of disappointments.

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Anything we refer to as already happened, anything we've seen, is already in the past. This does not in any way limit our future. Humans are the most adaptable species on the planet, and getting better and better at it every day.

To argue that something cannot be because it hasn't been before, is simply wrong. Every new thing was "impossible" until somebody created it.

People repeat history because they do nothing but look at history and think that's the way it has to go, the only way it could be. The only people who have ever changed things are people who see an alternative that's never been tried and go for it, in spite of naysayers who can't believe in it until it's in front of them.

I am sorry that you live a reality where people are not cooperative and supportive of each other, that's really unfortunate. That is not the world that I live in, that's not the way that the 1000s of people across the world who I interact with every year are, but that's because it's not my belief, and our beliefs decide our experience.

The scientific man does not aim at an immediate result. He does not expect that his advanced ideas will be readily taken up. His work is like that of the planter - for the future. His duty is to lay the foundation for those who are to come, and point the way.
Nikola Tesla

Humans are the most adaptable species on the planet, and getting better and better at it every day.

This is a big true but we are not getting better in this .. well because of how the "society" teach the people mostly. I am agree with you on that ...

To argue that something cannot be because it hasn't been before, is simply wrong. Every new thing was "impossible" until somebody created it.

I do not say that. I do not say it is wrong, I just say it will not work because of how humans are ... and please, I have seen with my own eyes cooperatives working and as I told u before, just in small places ... bigger than that will change in a dictadure or will be communism, kind of the same. ... and well you say it ur self if in a world of billions of people you have a group of 1000s who help each other ...

Sadly Nikola Tesla tried a lot how reality works ... look, I am agree in a lot of points with you but life teach that better to have Freedom than Subsidy because this will become Slavery at the end ...

Edit: I took out a question ... not reason to do it