Ya I know what it is called for some, but for me it is food and supplies for my family. This post was for people with families. The 18 year old is contributing. I don't mean any disrespect by this reply but I think you missed the point. I want to be in this family and I want to provide for them. For me it feels good and there are millions of people just like me. I know there is movements created every week. Like women on there own don't need a man movement or this MGTOW. I am very comfortable with were I am as far as family, but not with my current employment. I was one of those MGTOW's for 15 years. IT sucked! Thank you for replying, hope this clears what I was getting at a little better.
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