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Ancaps and minarchists aren't mainstream. The only libertarianism that's even remotely mainstream is the Rand Paul and Gary Johnson types who consider themselves 'fiscally conservative'and 'socially liberal', which is pretty much beltway libertarianism. Everything else is fringe.

haha yeah you are right, I meant that when you say "libertarian" in the American mainstream you are talking about all the "small government" people, AKA "fiscally conservative, socially liberal". Where I disagree with you is that the mainstream libertarians are simply beltway types. They are minarchists at best and ancaps at worst.

Can you name any mainstream ancaps or minarchists. Most politicians that call themselves libertarian are just republicans that act consistently with their small government rhetoric.