A request to Ned to undo the damage done to our community........

in #ned7 years ago (edited)

Hello Ned Scott


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##Please see in no way I am trying to offend you or point fingers at you. I am too negligible to do that. The below post has been made because I know that you are a good person and will hear to what a minnow has to say. I apologize you already, in case you don't agree to my post.##

Just yesterday, I came to know about a shocking incident on Steemit. I saw that you downvoted 3 posts of @officialfuzzy to just zero. Seeing this I wondered,"Why would Ned, the Founder and CEO of Steemit downvote the very same hangouts posts, which were once the discussion platform for the birth of Bitshares and Steemit!! What could go wrong in a year, that you would lead Ned to do this". 

Later officialfuzzy told us that it could be because of some personal issues between him and you. But sir, I just want to make you aware that you didn't cause any harm to officialfuzzy but only to minnows like me and the Steemit community in general. The posts you downvoted were contest posts where I also entered in hopes of winning some prize and grow myself on the Steemit platform. Like me many others also participated. And now, even if fuzzy rewards the winners from his own pocket, it is not certain if he would do it again in future. After all who would like to reward people from their own pockets. Everyone is here to earn and only earn and not for charities. But yes, if members like fuzzy earn, then they make sure that at least some (actually a lot more) rewards go back to the community.  With his rewards many artists, writers and developers show up and contribute towards to the whole of steemit community. His hangouts, which also you downvoted have led to the existence of many great projects like Bitshares and Steemit, which we all are proud of. Aren't we Ned? Apart from these he also empowered minnows and dolphins to launch their own community tokens. It led to @nepd launch "Hairshares", which allows steemit members to donate their hair for the cancer patients; @rideofpassion launch "Voiceshare", which will help people with depression to speak up and get the much needed support from the community; @rawbinhutt launch LFNcoin which helps people of particular interests to find other such people on steemit; and so many other projects which were launched before I even joined Steemit (I joined in May 2017). And how can we forget the whaleshares and beyondbits projects by fuzzy, which enable Steemit members to make their good posts more visible and reach to a wider audience. They are also used as rewards for various contests on Steemit, which are hosted not only by fuzzy, but also anyone who has beyondbits or whaleshares. Some examples are @patelincho  and  @jphenderson  which helps undervalued posts of minnows to be recognized and rewarded. And many other members of whaleshare community do the same. I also intend to host such contests when I have enough whaleshares or beyondbits. 

So all I want to say is that if you had downvoted fuzzy's post where he posts pictures of his vacation in Holululu or his post where his grandmother sings and dances on the tune of a flute, then I wouldn't have cared much. It would have made me sad at most, nothing more. But your downvotes on these community projects of officialfuzzy directly affected me and so many like me.

So Ned, please consider forgetting about your personal issues or at least keeping them aside to help grow the whole Steemit community. I hope you will consider my request.

Thanking You

Siddartha Gupta

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Very very good work. Interesting - I'm sure myself and others will investigate. Much Love - Keep Steemin Brother!

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Keep Steemin!

Always Brother!

actually this platform is for social free, and all can vote what they want, so he wanted to kick fuzzy ass and he did its maybe bad for minnows as you think, but may be he as a founder got much more information on this and may be he is right.

Well I believe more on what I see and experience. And whatever the truth for downvoting might be, but one thing is for sure that fuzzy does help the community with his various projects and also backing good projects of others. So his posts being downvoted directly convert to the community's loss. If you know what I mean.

I generally agree, except with the part I highlighted below... I really would have liked to see that, and upvote it too!

So all I want to say is that if you had downvoted fuzzy's post where he posts pictures of his vacation in Holululu or his post where his grandmother sings and dances on the tone of a flute, then I wouldn't have cared much.

I think i found her!

OMG, I can't believe it!!! If I had a $1000 upvote, I would have surely given it to you man! Just made my day!!!!!

Especially if you combine both! You can't downvote quality like that!

Haha, you are right. Even I would love to see such posts from fuzzy and upvote them. But all that stupid dwarf does is post community beneficiary projects!!!

That can be true @investwarrior, but how about posting an update so that others don't do things that can bring such outcome?

This is what I would like to know. I have heard of about three of these instances but have no idea what caused any of them to happen. It is frustrating to know there is a problem, but not know what the problem is.

An explanation would certainly be nice.

So, an odd-thing just happened. A user, @jbouchard, posted a comment suggesting Ned was doing this for price manipulation reasons. I wrote a reply to it suggesting that was far-fetched, and now it says the Steemit account doesn't exist. It's also gone from Steemd.

This wasn't a throwaway account, but a 60 rep account with an avatar. Anyone know what's up with that?

Yea I noticed that as I tried to reply to the comment as well.
Poof- without a trace...

It was just "jbouchard" right, no numbers? I'm about 99% sure. Avatar and 60 rep I am 100% sure on, I can still see it in my brain.

I knew I should've hit print screen.

Holy hell this soap opera just got taken to a new level lol, let the conspiracy theories begin!

Jesus so true. I just want to friggin build...

I dont take a witness and all my work is LOGGED on the blockchain in posts that ALL pay more than i earn on them to a community as reward for working to build value and skills. And paid by generally over 350 community votes...for them. And one downvote from ned to snuff the progress...(without warning or explanation of course)

The pay i earn from posts goes to paying my bills and paying for dev so i can keep doing what i do until some big competitior with billions comes and buys so much steem that he can defeat me...at which point we are all selling steem for $15 each...

Ned prefers to not finish projects, ignore me, support known liars instead, and steap my ideas as his own before knowing i had them built already.

Is @jbouchard related to the https://steemd.com/@jbouchard12 account? Because if not, you got yourself a brand new jbouchard to interact with ! He likes Sonic, who doesn't like Sonic?

I see that account now, but there is no trace of his comment still.

Have you asked him? Because he might have deleted it himself by choice viewing his activity https://steemdb.com/@jbouchard12 I wish I could view SteemD but it is all borked for the past day and not showing everything

I haven't asked him, but I also didn't think it was possible to completely delete a post. I'll give it a test.
Edit: You CAN delete a comment. Where the hell have I been? lol

Right, only if it has no replies.

Good to know. Thank you!

My son loves sonic... :)

I am 99% sure it was just "jbouchard", no numbers, but I don't have the screenshot to back it up. Plus, it said the whole account didn't exist, not just the comment.

It only says the whole account didn't exist if you don't have the numbers. He deleted the comment, here is a screen from https://steemdb.com/@jbouchard12

I would amazingly way more pleased if there was two level 60 members named @jbouchard and @jbouchard12 who both had commented on the same post and both had deleted comments, and also the other one was into Sonic the Hedgehog too. Which, I believe is not that out of reach, as who doesn't love Sonic, I mean c'mon.

Nope, no idea, but it is very sad if it happened that way.....

While I can't find anything about @jbouchard in the blockchain, a search allowed me to find @jbouchard12, who is quite active on Steemit. He has a reputation score of 60. That account is still alive.

Is that who you were thinking of?

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Good post. But it's sad that he down voted the the project. Official fuzzy help many minnows to get notice in the steemit community. His contribution is somehow essential to the growth and development of steemit.

Thank you for noticing :)

Yes, Fuzzy's contributions are very very valuable to this community.

Isn't it funny that in this article their are two camps… people who disagree with each other. This is evidence of real disagreement and reality. Who knows how many articles are filled with comments and voting support of colluding self-interest.

I predicted a war between false/ai accounts and authentic ones. But maybe there will end up being a political battle over influence. The steem founders predicted something like this, with the crab story.

Actually it is not 2 camps. People are clearly supporting fuzzy here.....

First time i hear about that.. lol your keyword tag "befriendsagain" :-D :-D

Ya things are happening, which many of us don't know.
LOL ya I used that tag because I am more on diplomatic side. Although many members have openly shown their anger regarding Ned downvoting Fuzzy's community projects, but I tend to be more optimistic!!!

The next wave of attacks will likely be from accounts not "directly" connected to him. Look for it.

Ill say this in hopes im wrong...but now with the knowledge gained through experience, i must say it on blockchain in case it does...so there is historical record.

Wow I hope you are wrong at this. That would be insane!

@siddartha, thanks for sticking up for the minnows! great post

Thank you brother.

I think @ned should just make a post that says, "covfefe"

And we can all speculate as to why someone else did something else to someone else.

No one here owes anyone else an explanation as to why they do what they do.

If they care to say, they have that ability.

I agree he is not bound o give any explanation, but it would be great if he does!!!

I'm wondering if there's another explanation for one of these stories.

I need to do some more research but am planning a post later today.

Well you can look into @officialfuzzy's this post: https://steemit.com/steem/@officialfuzzy/beyondbit-bounties-it-s-time-for-steem-to-have-a-crypto-friendly-bounty-system-doubling-the-original-bounty-rewards-with-8000sbd.

I am sure it will at least make you aware of his side of the story. And we are all waiting for Ned's side of story. I will be checking your post for sure!

I'll take a look at it.

The other half of the controversy was what I looked into first.

https://steemit.com/steemit/@theblindsquirl/has-the-steemit-community-been-scammed

Liked your research in this post of yours.

Thanks.

That's what's so discouraging about the Trending page. People are blindly following and upvoting whoever/whatever is the most popular, thinking it will somehow benefit them.

That propensity is what will kill Steemit.

It was one article, on one day. Everyone just needs to calm down.
officialfuzzy is on trending every day.
I am sure he can handle it.

It was not 1 article, but 3 articles. And yes if you had read my post, I have said the same. Fuzzy can surely handle it even if all his future posts get downvoted. But it directly affects us.

He has also recently downvoted two other posts on Steemit from two other users
@cryptofreedom and @dan https://steemdb.com/@ned . I think he knows what he is doing.

Of course he knows what he is doing, but the question is why!

He kicked me from steem slack, joined steemspeak and told everyone about my community coin idea as his own...

Not knowing i had already BUILT IT...is my very strong suspicion. And since ned doesnt see fit to answer...ill simply continue to say it out loud this is what i think. In fact im highly highly certain of it.

Too bad ned prefers to shoot himself in the foot just so he can gett me in the crossfire. Everyone loses...thanks ned.

Actually no i cant.

Because ned is a ridiculously large whale who also controls a vast majority stake through steemit.inc.

I find myself wondering why ned doesnt spend his ample resources helping find whales who only upvote sockpuppets of one another...

minnows's voice @siddartha :D
I hope this problems get solved. Well done bro!!

Thanks @mirayur! I too hope it gets sorted out soon......

Maybe he wanted to downvote those posts specifically to slow those certain contests and ensure that all users were effected, not just one. I just think he knew the repercussions before he did it, he can't predict how people will react exactly, but I believe he knew what he was doing and how many people it would effect.

Is fuzzy the one who desurve flag ...............based on reward arguments ? I dont think so , based on my view over trending page ....

Yes, the point is fuzzy didn't get affected by it. If worse happens, he would just quit or stopp his community projects. But surely people like me will suffer. Fuzzys project make one of the biggest impacts here.

The support that Fuzzy gives is the reason why many follow him

100% agree.

I like Fuzzy's projects and have used the beyondbitcoin tag myself for a couple of specific posts, but there is plenty of other great projects going on Steemit as well. I am sure Fuzzy's wallet will not really be affected big time by things, but I am sure he might be affected in other ways. I do not want to downplay anything Fuzzy does, only to make the point that there is a lot of other great Steemit things going on to help minnows and great contests and things of that nature. I would love to see a public statement from either Fuzzy of Ned if they haven't made one already.

It's really not about fuzzy's wallet. He has enough money to lead a comfortable life, if not rich. But the thing is that his projects really helped smaller members like me to gain visibility or show our skills or to be a part of the community. Plus his backing of real world projects like hairshares and voiceshares make a big difference to this community + outside this community.....

Im actually not rich at all....

Its taken me 9 years to have approx 600k in crypto tokens whose voting rights give me the ability to build communities. I could easily cash out and be rich, but as long as im using my sp to build communities my life is pretty luxury-free....

Ask my wife how rich we are (we seriously are not). Ned on the other hand. I bet he doesnt drive a 16 year old $2000 toyota...

Or the whales with multiple sockpuppets they upvote...on the other hand...

That's what I meant Fuzzy. You always had and have the choice of cashing out. Even at this rate of Steem, it would be a huge amount. So who would be really affected by this? We the general members and the community at large!

Agreed, that is what I just said lol, it isn't about him being effected money-wise. I am just saying the things he did, other people do as well, and I don't think Fuzzy would stop doing the things he does even if he did it on another network than Steemit. Really would love word from him or Ned though.

Actually it does effect my wallet because while people who promote steempower leasing say whaleshares is a votebuying scheme, they dont realize i put money i make BACK INTO the platform and dont even sell whaleshares!
If i cant sell whaleshares while steempower leasing is promoted as ok...how am do I have incentive to build?

What can i buy exactly with locked away sp? What can i continue to develop if i have to power down to do it? I can buy infrustructure for creating synergy between the two chains i had a part in making possible...

Think for a moment what im saying here: steempower is Locked Up value. I unlocked it without having to power down and am offering it as a service for all whales.

Who is the "they" in the first sentence?

This is a lot more information about BeyondBits and Whaleshares than I can fully admit to knowing about, I will be looking into these two things, I did not know there was offshore type Steem but not Steem going on. I thought the value of SteemPower is that it is locked up.

It is. But my invention of whaleshares enables me to make sp and votes liquid as tokens used for upvotes :)

Imagine man...if every whale did what i do...instead of all this drama.

good post,awesome work....

Its really crazy what is going on , flaging the person who give his earnings to the comunity is not les but unfair ........

But I am sure Ned will rethink about this. He is a good guy. 😊

I just came to know that she has stopped posting on Steemit anymore for the same reason. Is it true?

Yes it seems Dan downvoted her, although I can't confirm. But Ned didn't downvote her.

Yes, there are two guys who downvoted the posts. An open-ended question to @ned and @dan.

You have no idea what her long-term plans are or why she stopped posting. It is only a guess.

No someone posted that on steemit that Dan downvoted her, so she is not posting. But I can't confirm for her, I can only confirm for officialfuzzy's community project and contest posts downvoted by Ned.

Well, the Steem blockchain is there where you can check up on who down voted, or who did not.

as I commented on another post...

I don't think sweetsssj necessarily stopped posted just because of Dan's ONE PERCENT downvote, currently worth about 6 bucks...

(from steemdb) -1% 6 days ago @dan voted on travel-with-me-81-round-up-of-the-beach-tower-and-royal-towers-at-atlantis-which-hotel-is-better by sweetsssj

Amazing post, what you had to say was true and meaningful.Waiting to see the response of Ned :) Thank you for sharing

Yes I am also eagerly waiting for his response. I hope it will be positive one......

This place is getting a bit toxic, circle jerkish and too many dramas lately. Very saddening, really :(

Hmm, wish I could say you are wrong, but you are very right.....

No need to downvote if Steemit members could create their own groups.

DECENTRALIZE :)

Yup, decentralize is the mantra!

Great job man, hopefully we will get an answer!

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Hopefully!!

Damn this is crazy and this can be harmful for the whole steemit platform if minnows get pissed leave and start talking bad about steemit less people will join and more will go. Better he use his time and knowledge to kick the ass of those scammers on steemit and not some projects who help the minnows. I hope this all ends in a good way. Thanks for this info.

Yes, people will surely get demotivated by this. I personally think the idea of flags is wrong in itself on a platform which promotes free speech. All these flags do is promote hatred and instability on the platform.

Yes you are totally right it feels like to be controlled and this is not what I like!!!

Really heart touching post i upvoted your post and start following you please keep writing best of luck @sharoon

My pleasure Sharoon.

Nice post my support is for you.

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Thanks for posting about this. I also posted about the same today on my latest blog post-pls check it out and hope that the issue get resolved in a mature and community spirit way. Keep steeming, upped.

Thanks for stopping by. I will surely check your post!

welcome and thanks for your comment

Unless this is a privately owned organisation, how can one person dictate the discussions? Regardless of being the founder, surely? :)X

Yup this is a very important question.

Well, i really don t know what is going on or understand many things around here, but from what i read, it seems that you spoke in name of all the minnows that saw in @officialfuzzy projects the help needed to improve ourselves here on steemit... So, thank you :)

Yes exactly, you are right about that. It concerns us minnows and basically all those who benefit from Officialfuzzy's community projects.

I guess everyone get tired of seeing the same guys making hundreds of $$$ everyday. Just guessing!

So we'd rather just have invisible people make hundreds of $$$ every day? Who cares? People are free to upvote or not to upvote.

And also free to downvote

true dat, but there is usually negative emotion involved with downvotes, so most people avoid that route.

Well, I can't say of other people, but fuzzy only makes posts on certain days of the week and not everyday. Secondly he does not post CRAP, he posts things which help the community. If you had cared to look into his projects and the projects he backs, you would have certainly understood that he is the last guy who should be downvoted on steemit. Just consider it, if you are running a NGO which helps out people and the govt. tries to shut it down. Can it be justified on any grounds??

@siddartha, @ned has the right as an SP stake holder to flag as he sees fit. Especially if someone is abusing the system. The top stakeholders have this power for a reason. Most of us want the best for STEEM and minnows such as yourself. I will protect the STEEM blockchain at all costs and work to keep it free of evil. I also have faith in @ned and his decisions. Dont forget that @ned and @dan were the ones who created this opportunity for all of us. The STEEM blockchain is a gift, and it must be respected.

exactly

Even you agree Zeartul that ned downvoting fuzzy was right!!??

NO I DO NOT AGREE that ned downvoting fuzzy was correct, but what I do see that he has a stake, what would of been better was an explanation.

thanks for giving some insight to this

Of course he has the right. And not only he but everyone here has the right to downvote. But we should also see the consequences of the downvoting. If community projects are being downvoted, then it is not in the best interests of the Steemit. If we have power, then it does not mean we have to use it....

@thejohalfiles. hello friend, long time no see.. I recently got robbed and my laptop was stolen, i was writing a nice book for the community yet can't finish it.
Could you please upvote my article about the whole thing.. I know you gave me support when I started here and I am quite grateful for that.. I really don't like approaching people this way but there is no shame in asking.

Im not asking for any sbd or steem an upvote would mean a lot for me and i know it won't cost you anything. I just want to finish. My book :/ 📖

Thanks in return and much love brother 💖

Also feel free to ignore this, it's just a request nothing else.

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Read it twice, maybe you will get an idea......!