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RE: Is it truly "progressive" when the negative things are simply pushed into ghettos and ignored while virtue signalling about other things?

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We do have an obscene problem with a shortage of housing here in California, which also causes a large homeless population, but it's not because of taxes or illegal immigration exactly. Property taxes are actually pretty low on average here. The illegal immigrants make their own density by piling up in single family homes with like 20 people, so I doubt they have much effect on the price of real estate here.

It's mostly because of failed government interference in markets, that of zoning restrictions and open space easements. Zoning restrictions are generally very restrictive on official population density in California. In addition, most places have height restrictions on buildings, so even if you could legally make it more dense it wouldn't be possible anyway, all in the name of saving the "natural" views. They've resorted to allowing people to build "granny flats" in their back yards because the problem has gotten so bad lately. They're basically sheds with power and plumbing and people are going to start paying rent to live in them. Any newcomers (illegal or otherwise) would easily be absorbed if these restrictions were lifted.

Open space easements are another wonderful gift from the government here. They restrict certain private property from being developed, so there's basically just a bunch of vacant unusable land laying around that's a useless fire hazard. It occasionally gets snatched up by some connected individual who buys it for pennies on the dollar and uses his political connections to lift the easement and develop it, but us mere mortals would be prohibited from doing so. Regardless of that, I still think it's a net positive when it happens, but most of it is just wasted as vacant land.

This is not to mention the unusual amount of city, state and federal government owned land here that is also laying vacant (also a fire hazard where most of the fires start or grow out of control). At least in NY I could hunt on state land. I think it's a felony to even carry a slingshot on state land here. They've banned shooting on BLM and National Forest land due to "fire danger from shooting" and it's illegal to discharge firearms within city limits, so forget about it there. it doesn't please the crown that we should take his game. Some people camp and hike in these places, but even that is pretty limited. It's just waste in my opinion.

That said, having moved here from NY, I'd say NY is still more locked down socialist than CA, although CA's been catching up since I moved here. At least I still don't get pulled over for no good reason every couple of months here like I did in NY. The damn speed trap racket they run there almost bankrupted me several times.

Oh, just thought of another thing about San Fran. I think they have rent controls up there like in NYC. They're trying to do that in San Diego right now in some of the high end beach areas. It's a disaster when they do it. It drives out all of the builders and everybody has to fight over the scraps that are left over.

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We do have an obscene problem with a shortage of housing here in California

I imagine being basically a sanctuary state and full of sanctuary cities doesn't help with that problem. (And yes, I see you say it doesn't have much of an impact)

That said, having moved here from NY, I'd say NY is still more locked down socialist than CA, although CA's been catching up since I moved here. At least I still don't get pulled over for no good reason every couple of months here like I did in NY. The damn speed trap racket they run there almost bankrupted me several times.

New York City? Or are you meaning the entire NY State?

The entire state. I grew up in the Buffalo-Niagara region. NYC is definitely the worst of it, but a lot of state policy is dictated from there anyway and the left controls almost everything politically save for a few rural counties. I don't remember traveling anywhere in the state where I didn't get hassled by traffic cops on a regular basis for the smallest of infractions (literally got pulled over twice for a license plate light that was "out," when it was just a clouded lens and therefore not very bright, that kind of bullshit all the time), taxes were higher in most cases, commerce is more restricted (you need a special license to shovel and plow snow), somehow power is more expensive with that cash cow of a Niagara Power Project sitting there, more state welfare programs, stricter gun regulations, fewer employment opportunities, you name it. It was a shitty place to try to make a living and live (except my loved ones who I miss all the time of course). Like I said, CA has closed the gap on a lot of those criteria over the decade plus I've been here, but NYS (New York State) is still worse in most ways in my opinion, having lived in both places.

It is ironic how the supposedly "liberal" and "progressive" seems to quickly to devolve into the most repressive and police state like. Though when the Germans embraced National "Socialism" to then become the NAZI party they kind of showed where it normally goes. It didn't happen just with them. Fascism and Socialism tend to like to do a married couple style dance all over the corpses of their "citizens" and they are really good at pretending "it's not me, it's someone elses fault, let's KILL them, Yell at them, and repress them while accusing them of being the ones full of hate."

Was the Shah of Iran socialist? he headed a fascist regime with US support after the CIA coup against Mossadegh (a nationalist that happened to be effectively against communism).
Was Guatemala after the coup against Arbenz, again, CIA-led coup, socialist? No, it was also fascist, with heavy US military support for decades and that little "extra": torture.
What about Chile? Allende's socialist, democratically elected government ousted, again by the CIA in tandem with the local military. Pinochet takes his place: Fascism, repression and torture again.

only 3 examples out of dozens since the end of WWII. Third world governments wanting their resoruces to benefit themselves and trying to redistrubute the wealth concentrated in the elites (just like it concentrates there now, as in everywhere in the "free world", since the US effectively impose its rules) and then getting toppled and replaced with client regimes, fascist client regimes with widespread torture and repression by local military men trained in the "School of the Americas", Georgia, US. What did they learn there? all those military men from South America? "counterinsurgency", that is repression, torture, destruction of free speech and any kind of disidency. The elite's wealth kept in the elite's hands, as it should be, according to the Empire.

Amazing what the propaganda apparatus can achieve right in its source. But also here in the Third World, as most people is completely ignorant of what I mentioned above, some even think they are actually "liberating" something. Pretty sure humanity is no that dumb, they just don't care, is easier not to know all this.

And the term originated with Mussolini, Franco, and Hitler.

I see people call things fascists today while they themselves act more like the fascists.

Was/is fascism a real thing? Definitely. Yet it is more than disagreeing with a person. It encompassed specific approaches to dealing with people. Each case had its equivalent of brown shirts in those three historical precedents.

As to the others I haven't studied them to know if they did as well. I also don't know if they are truly fascist or not without looking into them.

I do know the so-called anti-fascists we have in the U.S. act more like brownshirts and fascists than anyone else in our nation. They do everything they can to silence free speech, they advocate violence to do it. They believe they are fighting fascism, but sadly most of them don't know much about actual fascism.

Could this be the case in your other examples? I don't know since I haven't looked into those particular examples. I looked into the three progenitor cases.

Typically it is government run by the corporations. Yet, people naively believe socialism avoids this. Instead it grants monopoly on a grand scale. It is essentially corporations with guaranteed no-bid contracts. Fascists LOVE socialism. They don't like free market though. Thus, why they do what they can to make certain it is not free and is in their control.

The three wealthiest people in the U.S. lately have been pushing massive amounts of socialist drivel. Much like the Nazis did.

People think the ideas are great when they don't have to think about the fact they have to steal from people to push these agendas.

Excellent, you completely avoided any kind of meaningful response. The info is available, if you don't know about it perhaps you don't care, except you do talk about it, a lot.

If you can't see the meaning. That doesn't mean there isn't one. More arrogance...