On a recent reread of the white paper it's useful, I think, to point out how many of the stated aims of steemit the Whale Wars undermine... at least the following -
- figuring out a way of fairly rewarding people
- building community
- being a store of 'quality information'
- extending to a mass audience.
- it also breaches the so called sweat equity principle.
The only thing it's good for is allowing wealthy individuals to make themselves richer.
I think the whole anti-cencorship line is just an ideological smoke screen - these whales aren't interested in free speach they are interested in the freedom to extract as much steem for themselves as possible.
Steemit either needs to remarket itself to make this clear or try a straightforward maximium reward limlit (maybe) - NB putting a limit on rewards does not limit free speach.
Also - IF we had hard limits on how much you can take from the reward pool - you are still free to transfer 100s of steem to an individual if you REALLY like their post THAT much!
Very good suggestion indeed, wow!!! Daily max reward is a good point just like daily post limit however as indicated in this post, they will circumvent it with many new accounts...human nature aka greed is the issue
Damn. I always miss the obvious - fair point about the multiple accounts.
I guess the most obvious way to solve that is through verification.... not gonna happen is it!
At least a max reward would be symbolic and make abuse slightly more of a hassle.
Good point, verification is the solution however people will go against it because of claim of decentralisation and uncensorship...people will always have a reason to keep their greed.However strong will is needed ie do some unpopular things for future gains
One of the points you mentioned was "building a community." Haejin has 25000 people following his blog. Posts often receive over 10k views and hundreds of votes. Like it or not, that is a community that he has built and who's support he has gained.
People from outside of that group decided that they didn't think the content was worth its large rewards. First they were led by a few whales, but now have built their own communities.
The overall problem is that there is a scarce resource (the rewards pool), and everyone is in competition to gain a portion of it. While the site was set up with a very libertarian view, there are many individuals and groups with very different political and ethical theories on how things are run. Since there are few ground rules, it basically becomes a tribal fight of ideas and for resources... technology is advancing quickly, but humans are stuck in our old greedy and tribal ways.
Very good point however does he show back the love to hundreds of people that comments and upvotes his posts or just throw in many posts and make money...sometimes we can compromise and at least show love to our supporters and others struggling in the platform, by upvoting good comments including their posts..however this is impossible if you post 8+ daily...I podt 1 daily in order to be able to respond to many people as possible before the post payout expires
I have received upvotes from haejin. I think there would be many more upvotes being spread out if he wasn't having to use his upvote power to fight the people attacking him.
As to the 8+ posts, he has dozens of requests from his followers for tokens/coins to review. He is gives his followers what we are asking for. What we are not asking for is to be downvoted by outsiders for daring to comment on his blog posts, and sorting through dozens of derogatory memes in the comment section while trying to interact.
If the detractors cared at all about haejins followers they would cease those actions.
Granted it's a type of community, and I'm more than happy to share a platform with them; I'd just like things tweaked so Haejin can't pay himself so much!
Also I'm not so sure his analysis is sound, but it is visible, mainly because of him rewarding himself, which maybe explains why he gets so many views! Also we don't know how many of those upvotes are done just for their share of SP?
To haejin paying himself:
I'm about 90% positive that haejin didn't start upvoting himself until the flag war began.
Payments are based on the amount of SP used in voting. Haejing picked up one on the largest whales on the platform as a benefactor. A large % of his rewards come from the SP of ranchorelaxo who invested over $1MM into steam.
When the flag war began he was not a whale, he had apx 8k SP. His upvote was worth about $15.
His community rallied together to delegate SP to him. He has since used the SBD he earns to buy more SP and has increased his voting power from that.
His own votes have been primarily to counter the downvotes and to downvote the bad actors on the steemit platform.
This war was not started because haejin was over rewarding himself.
OK - thanks for the info!
Thank you for the conversation.