It was explained to me that creditors would receive fiat payments for the bitcoins they lost at the value of bitcoin when the hack happened. If they are actually giving BTC back that is great; though it would surprise me to see the US Gov giving up Ross' BTC at this time.
You are wrong, and maybe not completely honest.
This account has been systematically voted into oblivion, like many others who do not come with a NATO bias, whilst accounts repeatedly shouting 'Russia Bad, NATO good' get loads of upvotes and no "reward adjustment". So yeah, your 'adjustment' is either a lie, a dilusion or the ignorance that lets you feel good about it ;)
Anyways, we have the same on Hive like in that corrupt world, which is a bit disappointing. I simply find it astounding that the 'important' people on Hive make sure it is not free and does not work. And obviously you are part of that. But hey, be ruled (or rule) and enjoy it.
A 100% downvote or just enough to make sure they get no profit here, it does basically the same thing. I just don't feel like wasting my time on propagandist lies calculating the exact amount. And you well know it's not censorship. In point of fact, I don't even downvote RT posts until everyone has had a day to read their BS.
In point of fact, I don't even downvote RT posts until everyone has had a day to read their BS.
Strange to tell you of all how that platform works, but your downvote does not hide a post, it is the reputation... I'd prefer you'd openly come out and say " me and a few rule Hive" instead of some lazy arguments that do not hold true. But, do you care?
but isn't it also 100% damage in reputation?
On a 'free speech' platform there shouldn't be such bullying; especially from people with an involvement and stake like yours.
It says nothing; actually maybe it does tell a bit about you.
Maybe one day some people will learn again how to have a conversation (like using real arguments or answering questions), but maybe I am just a nostalgic fart and you are on the cutting edge of this modern idiocracy.
@blocktrades and @solominer , sorry if I sound a bit frustrated or edgy.
I really liked Steem and then Hive, but since quite some time I have the impression that the platform has become a bit too much like what it was supposed to be a counter-concept to. And that might be the reason there are almost no users and not much value in Hive.
Is taking this direction on purpose, is there a plan, has it been decided that Hive better stays niche niche?
Would you still call Hive decentralized?
Is there an effort to have free speech here (and how would you define that?), or was it decided against it?
In a nutshell, free speech means you have the right to say something without the government taking action against you for saying it (its a little more complicated than that, but lets leave the discussion of the meaning of this phrase for now, because I think you're interested in discussing a related, but different topic).
The topic you're discussing is one of "public forums". The idea of a public forum is a place that is created as an easy way for people to share ideas with the public (public here means an unspecified group of people, where anyone can decide to be part of that group if they want by going to the forum).
In their most original forum of an outdoor physical space, public forums needed very little maintenance, and hence were subject to little control by any private party (in fact, most public forums typically originated as a service provided by government).
Nowadays, the public forums with the ability to reach very large numbers of people are all online. These public forums are more costly to maintain than an open space of ground, so they are generally run by either for-profit or not-for-profit organizations.
Some public forums are operated to share particular forms of information, others are "general" in nature. For topic forums, off-topic information is often censored (on Hive, this censorship is done via communities). The idea is that people who "read/attend" a particular community forum have chosen to go to that particular forum because they want to hear that type of information and not others.
Next, let's define censorship: the suppression of words, images, or ideas that are “offensive" is the generally accepted definition I found, but I actually view censorship as having a broader definition. To me, censorship is not just suppression of ideas that are offensive: I think preventing someone from sharing any idea is censorship. This means that I also consider various IP rules like copyright to also be a form of censorship.
For the most part, I am strongly opposed to censorship as it is a dangerous limit on free thought and the evolution of civilization itself. But information is power, and under certain circumstances I would support censorship. The most obvious case I can think of immediately would be censorship of sensitive military information that if shared with an enemy would result in military losses.
For direct benefit, for support of internal beliefs, and because of government pressure, organizations will almost always exert some level of censorship over the forum they control. Generally speaking, I think too much censorship is applied by most such organizations.
Additionally, governments do often exert a lot of indirect control over the organizations that run these public forums, most notably in China, where there are ongoing active censorship attempts by the government of any public forum that operates in China. But almost all countries define some content as illegal content that should be censored and organizations that run public forums are often under pressure to censor such content.
With that as background, let's look at Hive: I'll finish this later, I have to go to lunch now...
censorship is suppression of information by exercising power; manipulating the flow of information to create a 'narrative' that is more in line with a certain taste, a bias or some agenda. Call it censorship or not, but that's what most of this is about.
It was explained to me that creditors would receive fiat payments for the bitcoins they lost at the value of bitcoin when the hack happened. If they are actually giving BTC back that is great; though it would surprise me to see the US Gov giving up Ross' BTC at this time.
@blocktrades, censoring your 'own' platform, sad!
It's not censorship, it a reward adjustment.
Censorship is having your account blocked or shadow banned. No such thing is happening here, they can still post and everyone can see it.
They just do not get rewarded.
You are wrong, and maybe not completely honest.
This account has been systematically voted into oblivion, like many others who do not come with a NATO bias, whilst accounts repeatedly shouting 'Russia Bad, NATO good' get loads of upvotes and no "reward adjustment". So yeah, your 'adjustment' is either a lie, a dilusion or the ignorance that lets you feel good about it ;)
Anyways, we have the same on Hive like in that corrupt world, which is a bit disappointing. I simply find it astounding that the 'important' people on Hive make sure it is not free and does not work. And obviously you are part of that. But hey, be ruled (or rule) and enjoy it.
and btw., a 100% downvote from blocktrades goes faaar beyond reward adjustment. So, what you think of that?
A 100% downvote or just enough to make sure they get no profit here, it does basically the same thing. I just don't feel like wasting my time on propagandist lies calculating the exact amount. And you well know it's not censorship. In point of fact, I don't even downvote RT posts until everyone has had a day to read their BS.
Strange to tell you of all how that platform works, but your downvote does not hide a post, it is the reputation... I'd prefer you'd openly come out and say " me and a few rule Hive" instead of some lazy arguments that do not hold true. But, do you care?
but isn't it also 100% damage in reputation?
On a 'free speech' platform there shouldn't be such bullying; especially from people with an involvement and stake like yours.
I think the tweet says it all.
It says nothing; actually maybe it does tell a bit about you.
Maybe one day some people will learn again how to have a conversation (like using real arguments or answering questions), but maybe I am just a nostalgic fart and you are on the cutting edge of this modern idiocracy.
@blocktrades and @solominer , sorry if I sound a bit frustrated or edgy.
I really liked Steem and then Hive, but since quite some time I have the impression that the platform has become a bit too much like what it was supposed to be a counter-concept to. And that might be the reason there are almost no users and not much value in Hive.
Is taking this direction on purpose, is there a plan, has it been decided that Hive better stays niche niche?
Would you still call Hive decentralized?
Is there an effort to have free speech here (and how would you define that?), or was it decided against it?
In a nutshell, free speech means you have the right to say something without the government taking action against you for saying it (its a little more complicated than that, but lets leave the discussion of the meaning of this phrase for now, because I think you're interested in discussing a related, but different topic).
The topic you're discussing is one of "public forums". The idea of a public forum is a place that is created as an easy way for people to share ideas with the public (public here means an unspecified group of people, where anyone can decide to be part of that group if they want by going to the forum).
In their most original forum of an outdoor physical space, public forums needed very little maintenance, and hence were subject to little control by any private party (in fact, most public forums typically originated as a service provided by government).
Nowadays, the public forums with the ability to reach very large numbers of people are all online. These public forums are more costly to maintain than an open space of ground, so they are generally run by either for-profit or not-for-profit organizations.
Some public forums are operated to share particular forms of information, others are "general" in nature. For topic forums, off-topic information is often censored (on Hive, this censorship is done via communities). The idea is that people who "read/attend" a particular community forum have chosen to go to that particular forum because they want to hear that type of information and not others.
Next, let's define censorship: the suppression of words, images, or ideas that are “offensive" is the generally accepted definition I found, but I actually view censorship as having a broader definition. To me, censorship is not just suppression of ideas that are offensive: I think preventing someone from sharing any idea is censorship. This means that I also consider various IP rules like copyright to also be a form of censorship.
For the most part, I am strongly opposed to censorship as it is a dangerous limit on free thought and the evolution of civilization itself. But information is power, and under certain circumstances I would support censorship. The most obvious case I can think of immediately would be censorship of sensitive military information that if shared with an enemy would result in military losses.
For direct benefit, for support of internal beliefs, and because of government pressure, organizations will almost always exert some level of censorship over the forum they control. Generally speaking, I think too much censorship is applied by most such organizations.
Additionally, governments do often exert a lot of indirect control over the organizations that run these public forums, most notably in China, where there are ongoing active censorship attempts by the government of any public forum that operates in China. But almost all countries define some content as illegal content that should be censored and organizations that run public forums are often under pressure to censor such content.
With that as background, let's look at Hive: I'll finish this later, I have to go to lunch now...
Bon appetit and thanks for taking the time.