The English had a choice...to decisively deal with the politicians, burrocrats, academics, and "journalists" subverting their country, or to play the "it can't happen here" game
lack of action has consequences
I wonder how many Englishmen worried about what their neighbors thought when it was time to act...or maybe thought "somebody else" would take care of the problem...or didn't want to be thought of as an "extremist"...or were looking after their paycheck
True; but we have to realize people want to be deceived, as well.
Propaganda works b/c it plays on what we want.
It's hard to vet normal Muslims who don't want/believe the dar al harb/dar al islam jihad from those that do. We don't even have hard numbers as to proportions.
Interpreting Islam as an ideology, it is easy to see the Islamist influence as dominate, but other, more peaceful, interpretations can be seen as well.
So for a person to make the argument that Islam is a xenophobic and violent religion can lead to the impression that all Muslims are terrorists or jihad supporters, which we know is not true.
But to make that first argument is to be associated with making the second. Not even considering taqiya or dawah propaganda, well meaning people will throw out the accusation of "Islamophobe" b/c they don't want to do the mental work of examining the religion to see if the first argument even has merit.
The same applies to matching correlations of Muslim immigration and terror rates; people don't want to be seen as "bigoted", so they shut off basic examination.
Nobody wants the neighbors calling them "Islamophobes"
So most people would rather not see things that upset them. The Ostrich Effect
Islamist, Deep State, leftist, and self-interest (NGOs, charites, refugee resettlement programs, etc) influences all introduce their own propaganda to take advantage of this normal human tendency.
It comes down to one of the major problems with democracy; having decisions regarding your life made by people that may not be competent to do that.
I see three possibilities here:
Islam is reformed from within the Islamic community
Islam as it exists today provokes the West to reform itself politically and morally to deal with the danger.
Islam conquers the West
Russia and Asia don't have anything to worry about on a systematic level; these are pragmatic cultures that will defend themselves. I'm more worried about the corruption and pompous pretension that pollutes our own society.
There is an issue that needs talking about desperately, but the authorities are arresting anyone with the wrong opinion in the UK. It's madness that needs to stop.
you mean like Clinton getting caught mishandling classified data, running a "pay for play" scheme out of State, cheating Beach House Bernie out of the dem nomination, or colluding with the media?
The Free Shit Army is going to vote for whoever promises them goodies from out of the taxpayer's wallet. They don't care what the politician does otherwise.
I'd like to think that is true, but at least in the US politicians are caught colluding with criminals all the time and nothing ever seems to happen. :/
Your country is like rich why the king and queen are not fixing and making repairs of that bridge.
I think you've missed the point :(
And I dont care. im not from london
Neither am I. Do you know what the topic is, here?
The English had a choice...to decisively deal with the politicians, burrocrats, academics, and "journalists" subverting their country, or to play the "it can't happen here" game
lack of action has consequences
I wonder how many Englishmen worried about what their neighbors thought when it was time to act...or maybe thought "somebody else" would take care of the problem...or didn't want to be thought of as an "extremist"...or were looking after their paycheck
There is so much deception in modern culture. It's hard to blame people for not being able to recognize what is plainly happening before them.
True; but we have to realize people want to be deceived, as well.
Propaganda works b/c it plays on what we want.
It's hard to vet normal Muslims who don't want/believe the dar al harb/dar al islam jihad from those that do. We don't even have hard numbers as to proportions.
Interpreting Islam as an ideology, it is easy to see the Islamist influence as dominate, but other, more peaceful, interpretations can be seen as well.
So for a person to make the argument that Islam is a xenophobic and violent religion can lead to the impression that all Muslims are terrorists or jihad supporters, which we know is not true.
But to make that first argument is to be associated with making the second. Not even considering taqiya or dawah propaganda, well meaning people will throw out the accusation of "Islamophobe" b/c they don't want to do the mental work of examining the religion to see if the first argument even has merit.
The same applies to matching correlations of Muslim immigration and terror rates; people don't want to be seen as "bigoted", so they shut off basic examination.
Nobody wants the neighbors calling them "Islamophobes"
So most people would rather not see things that upset them. The Ostrich Effect
Islamist, Deep State, leftist, and self-interest (NGOs, charites, refugee resettlement programs, etc) influences all introduce their own propaganda to take advantage of this normal human tendency.
It comes down to one of the major problems with democracy; having decisions regarding your life made by people that may not be competent to do that.
Wow. Very well thought-out assessment.
It's just a rewording of other posts I have made over the years
same speech, different day ;>
Who knows, maybe we need another crusade :P
I see three possibilities here:
Islam is reformed from within the Islamic community
Islam as it exists today provokes the West to reform itself politically and morally to deal with the danger.
Islam conquers the West
Russia and Asia don't have anything to worry about on a systematic level; these are pragmatic cultures that will defend themselves. I'm more worried about the corruption and pompous pretension that pollutes our own society.
What did they think was going to happen when they let all these animals into their country?
There is an issue that needs talking about desperately, but the authorities are arresting anyone with the wrong opinion in the UK. It's madness that needs to stop.
https://steemit.com/life/@mikegun/breaking-news-from-london you can watch here live from London.
Must be sad to be so cynical. What matters is that people have died.
What are you referring to regarding cynicism?
People who think there's some government plot behind it all. Sometimes there is no plot
I see. Do you think there's no government involvement in these terrorist attacks?
I really doubt it. Any politician caught with any involvement would be ruined. It would leak out.
you mean like Clinton getting caught mishandling classified data, running a "pay for play" scheme out of State, cheating Beach House Bernie out of the dem nomination, or colluding with the media?
The Free Shit Army is going to vote for whoever promises them goodies from out of the taxpayer's wallet. They don't care what the politician does otherwise.
I'd like to think that is true, but at least in the US politicians are caught colluding with criminals all the time and nothing ever seems to happen. :/
There are some who do dodgy deals, but killing your own citizens like this would be a whole different level.
And this is why we cant have nice things
:(