Hello @peaceandmoney, thanks for this review. I'm glad I found your blog post and I just signed up.
It's good to know that Hive keeps improving with new projects.
Thanks to @enginewitty and @sircork for creating a Hivestreaming platform. Can recorded videos be uploaded on Hivestreams and set to watch live for a live chat with the audience just like the YouTube premiere? OR Is Hivestreams only a platform to go live in real-time?
It is presently only for live stream and chatting. You can upload a small channel trailer/teaser but the file size is max of 500mb and I may not be able to sustain that feature. It's debatable. I know storing video is important to people, but that's a tens-of-thousands to hundreds of thousands and even millions of dollars a year situation to just store 99.9% mostly stuff no one will ever watch again, like somebody's 12 hour Minecraft game play videos or last months drama of the moment.
Unfortunately, its just too expensive to store video, so we recommend you record local and store on the video host of your choosing for your video on demand site needs, such as any IPFS provider, or just restream to youtube and let them eat those costs for all that old video. For pre-recorded video, 3PSeak is a great, hive base option for VoD (pre-recorded video on demand)
The thing about livestreams, is that they generally are time-based, nobody is watching yesterdays 6:00 news. They want the next live news.
For those creators that create video content that needs to be stored forever, Hive has 3Speak which is more like youtube and possibly some other options out there. And we are more like twitch.tv
Still trying to understand how it works... Does the live stream get recorded automatically to be shared outside Hivestreams or do I need a software tool connected to it to enable the recording or does it only read in real time and ends as the live stream ends?
I use 3Speak for my videos on Hive, I wanted to know if Hivestreams also work like YouTube premiere and learn more about it.
Thanks for the explanation.
Video on Demand and Live Streaming are two different things.
YouTube premiers are just video on demand on a schedule with a chat room.
HiveStreams.Live Streaming is like Twitch.TV, but 3SPeak is like YouTube.
If you wanted to "premiere" a pre-recorded video, you would need to live stream that video at a specific time from your computer to a live streaming service. Using OBS or StreamYard or whatever RTMP streaming app you prefer. (Real Time Media Protocol) OR use a Video On Demand service like Youtube that just plays the recording at a set time from their own stored copy.
YouTube stores videos and plays them back. They also allow live streaming and because billionaire companies and sponsors buy your personal data from them and cram ads on it, they can afford massive and insanely expensive data farms (tens of millions of dollars per month in costs) or like 3peak, use IPFS type protocols to store it all later, and IPFS definitely still costs money, which in 3speaks case is taken through beneficiary fees and other means in which they earn to pay for that storage. The thing is, live streams rarely get replays a day after they aired, especially over time. Live events are live. That's when they are relevant. Later on, not so much. Unless its literally world news, or a huge celebrity is on it like the recent streams of celeb youtubers interviewing ex presidents. People might scroll through that video later over a couple days, but by next week, its ancient history.
Conversely live streaming is sending video in real time, live, from your location. Literally talking to your audience, in real-time not prerecorded.
So anyway, you "could" send a prerecorded video instead of a live camera over a live stream, but that's just a watch party, not so much a "live stream".
It's possible, but its only real benefit is a video with a chat room at a certain time, as opposed to just uploading it to a VoD site and letting people watch it whenever they want and comment on it as they pass by it.
HiveStreams.Live does not store video. Streamers can send their livestreams to multiple outlets, such as broadcasting simultaneously to HiveStreams, YouTube Live, Twitch.tv, their own embedded website players on their own personal websites, and so on. Any RTMP based live streaming site, all of them work on the same video protocol, RTMP. Some of those will also save it for you, potentially branding it, putting ads on or it or just flat out charging for the post stream recording storage.
HiveStreams does not save the live event streams for broadcasters. Creators can record them locally on their cameras, or computers if using a webcam, or on media drives if its a bigger multicam production, etc, during the live event, and then edit the results for brevity, as most live streams are full of greetings and other stuff that replay watchers wont care about, and then publish them on video on demand sites such as 3speak, youtube, facebook, vimeo, or wherever as an additional way to publish them after the live stream is over.
If you wanted to "premiere" a video on HiveStreams, you would just actually be live streaming a recording from your computer in real time using a studio app like OBS. It would work, but there will be no stored replay of it on HiveStreams, you would still need to upload it somewhere else to a video on demand site that is storing video and serving recordings, instead of a live streaming app where you are serving the video yourself. and the site is merely hosting your feed and making things like web based players and chat rooms and channel profiles and things available for your live channel.
It's like a TV, tvs, don't save your stuff, but you can use a 3rd party - a VCR to save those live streams if you want. And on tv you can see live feeds like on the news or recordings like that old sitcom rerun, but the tv itself is just the conduit. HiveStreams is the TV here.
Oh, perfect, you took your time to explain in detail and I understand it now. I sincerely appreciate this @sircork. I'm looking forward to trying out the Hivestreams.
Hey @winanda, that's a great question. I'm pretty sure you can upload videos to your channel but in relation to setting them to watch live during a stream I will just check with @sircork, can you answer @winanda's question dude?
Thanks, he has replied in detail.
Already did Sir ;)
Way too efficient!
Way not enough sleeping
Is the coffee no longer working?
son, mere coffee hasn't kept me awake since about 1997 :P
Lol! I see you found the hard stuff way too soon. By the way I was starting to get used to the threads feature on the InLeo interface yesterday but the site seemed to go down and now it doesn't load. Do you or @vimukthi know if there are any problems with the site at the moment?
Re-reading, I will add, I run a pre-recorded video periodically for testing and just to have a "live now" account showing on this brand new site, and I just loop a pre-recorded old copyright free video off my hard drive.
So you could play a pre-recorded show as your live content via your studio app, usually OBS for most streamers, and thus "premiere" it live at a scheduled time, but the site will not host it after its over or store a replay of it, at this time anyway. I'd love to be able to support that, but disk space for billions of hours of video is just not feasible for this project right now and not technically necessary at all for it's intentions.
I understand your explanation now. I would need OBS to play a pre-recorded video. Thanks so much.