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RE: There Is No Such Thing As Free Will

in #philosophy7 years ago

The fact that you persist in trying to defend determinism and convince others that they have no free will displays your own internal acknowledgement that others have the freedom to choose what they believe. I can choose to eat, read, watch, and write different things; they will all have an affect on my mentality and future but, as others have already stated, they remain choices determined by my own thought process regardless of the influencing factors.

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The fact that you persist in trying to defend determinism and convince others that they have no free will displays your own internal acknowledgement that others have the freedom to choose what they believe.

not really. it demonstrates that i want to have a conversation. you assume too much.

I can choose to eat, read, watch, and write different things;

depending on ads on tv or conversations you had in the past :)

they will all have an affect on my mentality and future but, as others have already stated, they remain choices determined by my own thought process regardless of the influencing factors.

How can you be sure that your choices are yours then?

Based on your logic, we're all gods determining the destinies of other gods and atoms are just smaller gods that determine the destinies of bigger gods. The only defense you have is "how can you be sure that your choices are yours then?" How can I be sure? Well, I could go place my hand on something red-hot. I dare say more influences would tell me not to than would but I'm not going to because I'd prefer to preserve my hands to exercise my free will and free speech.

Based on your logic, we're all gods determining the destinies of other gods and atoms are just smaller gods that determine the destinies of bigger gods.

not really.

The only defense you have is "how can you be sure that your choices are yours then?" How can I be sure? Well, I could go place my hand on something red-hot.

How do you know that this example was your and not a classic one used by popular culture in order to convey the message of danger :)

And yet people still choose to either confront or avoid danger. You just persist in avoiding the fact that choices are involved. A message is simply that, a communication. What you do with it, is free will. Some have strong wills than others and I think you're aware of that as you seem to be set on angering me based upon your presumptuous attribution of that emotion. Deterministic folks amuse me, more often than not, especially when they try to convince me that I have no free will ;)

Great comments mate! I actually made a video about this very subject the other month and I shared it on my blog today. Check it out! :]

I admit that choices are involved. I doubt though that those are the results of the hosts :)

Yes, it would be quite nice if we could blame our bad decisions on microorganisms the live in our gut. After all, people get pissed when you blame them for your own poor choices; why confront yourself when you could blame bacteria? Still you have a direct capacity to change the bacteria in your body, so bacteria can only be determinative until you choose to do something about it.

Still you have a direct capacity to change the bacteria in your body, so bacteria can only be determinative until you choose to do something about it.

not really. situations in life such as an alcoholic mother can damage a fetus forever, poor nutrition as well.