I doubt that you quite understand the whole notion of free will. Free will is will without implications, You want to eat you eat without asking, you want to sleep you sleep without asking, that's what free will is but a lot of people uses the same notion when it comes to let's say "I want to rob somebody" well you can't do that buddy. That's where free will becomes offensive and is taken away from you for good. Although that is also a part of "free" "will". I hope this clears your doubt, all the best!
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I'll give you the opportunity to enlighten me.
Wha....? That's hard to follow. "Will" implies implications. How can you try to separate the two like that? That someone could do anything they wanted without consequence? Is that what you mean? You think free will is the ability to do whatever you want without consequence or "implication"?
No.. I disagree here.
You're saying that free will all of a sudden magically is no longer free will when someone does something that infringes on the free will of others, but.. That's demonstratively false. People murder each other all the time and they don't lose their free will. Even if put in a prison, then they still have free will to walk around the cell and think and eat and sleep and etc etc.
You don't lose your free will just because you infringe on others, in fact it seems like the most powerful people in the world throughout history are the people who infringe on the rights of others the most. So like, the empirical and historical evidence is not on your side. All the best!
This is how you make your comments look pretty lol and hope to engage some readers. There is no end to arguments and no doubt arguments can be won doesn't mean they are anything other than arguments. Those who understand they understand in one go but I will try to explain it once more. Let's say there's you then there's your cheating wife but it's her free will to sleep with whoever she want to then comes your freewill part and it hurts your freewill " 'cos logic" you wanted her never ever to sleep with any other person besides you(as long as in the relationship). That's where law kicks in and you file for a divorce and once you get what you wanted you feel much better. It doesn't mean your wife or you didn't have any freewill it simply means that law is a thing!
Okay. I don't even understand why you're bringing that up. I was talking about free will, I dunno why you would be citing law, they aren't necessarily related.
I also get the feeling perhaps English isn't your primary language, so I'm not sure we're going to be able to get extremely technical here. No worries. All the best to you.
Lmao, alright mate but thoughts have no language. It's just difference in perception, things might have looked a bit different and words only make things difficult. All I wanted to say is, freewill exists but at times part of freewill is not appropriate to exercise, that's where self-discipline comes in action. If failed, we have external forces like law. Hope, I finally made some sense lol? Have a good day!
Thoughts have no language? Everything has a language to it, even nothing.. If you're willing to listen and hear it. And I mean that in a metaphorical sense, not a literal sense.
Yeah I think I get what you mean now and I respect your "beliefs", and I generally agree with how you phrased it at the end, but I admit I can't prove such things. They remain in the realm of philosophy.
Thanks, same to you. Have a good rest of your day.
Nah thoughts have no language, it's your personal mechanism to interpret them, only a bilingual(or multilingual) person can understand what I am saying here, See you around :)
Just saying something in an absolute way doesn't make it true.
You are personally interpreting that thoughts have no language.
That's not true, and to be fair.. I sort of have studied numerous languages and language is one of my main subjects. So. I would disagree and you just saying otherwise isn't going to sway me that easily.
Everything is language. Including thoughts.
If you can't see thoughts as having a language.. I'm not sure how I can help you. You have to look at the world in a different way where you realize that everything is language. Sorta like some people think "everything is math", yet I think language is even more basic than math cause, what does math mean if you don't have the language to understand the symbols? Math is language as well. Just like thoughts are. Cheers.