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RE: The Good Vs Evil Delusion

in #philosophy8 years ago

Your position self-destructs under it's own weight. To deny absolut truth with absolut certainty is absurd. That's what you do, look at the negations.

I never said "with absolute certainty". even my position is subjective. There is no absolute truth according to me.

Your argument can be turned against you though quite easy. For an absolute truth to exist 7.5+ billion people have to accept it. good luck with that.

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Absolute truth exists necessarily because it's denial is absurd. Sure, you can move from

no. there is no absolute truth.
Again. No such thing as absolute truths. None.

to "It's just my opinion that there is no absolute truth". The fact stands that if you try to say that there IS no truth, no, none, no such thing, it leads to absurdity and therefor I think I have logically demonstrated that absolute truth necessarily exists.

The ever changing opinion or agreement of the whole earth's population does't constitute truth. Men can never be the foundation for absolute truth. If NaziGermany had won the war and in the end all people would think that it is right to kill jews in gas chambers it wouldn't make it true. Or if everybody would think that the moon is made of green cheese it still wouldn't be true.

Why do you have such a hard time to except the unavoidable conclusion?

Absolute truth exists necessarily because it's denial is absurd.

A statement doesn't make it true man. You need to demonstrate it.

to "It's just my opinion that there is no absolute truth". The fact stands that if you try to say that there IS no truth, no, none, no such thing, it leads to absurdity and therefor I think I have logically demonstrated that absolute truth necessarily exists.

Absurdity is acceptable if you take into consideration the myriads of constituents that make up a given truth. From time, space and entropy one cannot have the absolute picture for anything. One can only have a relative truth based on a given time-space. Absolute truths are ever-lasting. No such thing on a universe that is build on constant change.

The ever changing opinion or agreement of the whole earth's population does't constitute truth. Men can never be the foundation for absolute truth.

It is men who come up with the philosophical enquiries so men decide whether something is true or not. Work your logic man.

If NaziGermany had won the war and in the end all people would think that it is right to kill jews in gas chambers it wouldn't make it true.

It could. It is ok to kill cows today and eat them. in a vegan world is unacceptable though and therefore false.

Or if everybody would think that the moon is made of green cheese it still wouldn't be true.

It could based on M-theory that all possible states of the universe can and would exist. Heck you can even demonstrate that from a certain perspective the earth is flat.

Why do you have such a hard time to except the unavoidable conclusion?

Why do you have such hard time with logic 101?