It's a hard bot life

in #philosophy8 years ago (edited)

There is someone (something) at Steemit that I suspect of being a bot. My suspicions were first aroused because of 'its' comments. The speed at which it apparently gathers information, builds a lengthy response and clicks send seems a little too quick. In my opinion, the algorithm needs to be tweaked to slow it down in order to appear more human-like and fallible.

I can't prove it. Yet.

However, this got me thinking. What happens when the time comes and we are interacting with bots but, don't know it? Has the time already arrived? We wouldn't know if it has.

Ok, so what does this do to us?

In general, our ideas are inspired by our experiences. All of our environment is available to influence our thoughts and nudge our actions. When nature plays its role, this is an organic experience where randomness creates a steady flow of new information through unexpected encounters and evolution itself.

Evolution is a story teller in many ways as it tells where things have come from and hints at where they could go but, the way forward is random. At any time, any number of factors can change and evolution will hardfork and splinter into unexpected directions. It is quite beautiful how all of the randomness comes together to form all that is. Well, that is depending on beliefs I guess.

Anyway, what happens if less randomness gets interjected into our experience? As our relationships and much of our interaction goes online and across wires, we have begun to rely more and more on systems that think. Artificial intelligence that manages the data between nodes and sorts it into information that we accept or reject at the interface level.

We accept it if it sounds plausible and reject if it does not. But, as the AI learns, it increases its capabilities to emulate plausible actions of humans. For example, Facebook gives a memories suggestion, or 'on this day' type thing where past posts can be seen and shared. I live in Finland so the feed on the first warm day of the spring gets plastered with pictures of sun. 3 hours later it gets plastered again with the inevitable return of the snows. It is quite predictable.

I look back through my posts there sometimes and can compare weather across years. If it was a warm day a year ago, and this year snow, I can guess that a number of people will share the comparison and complain. Predictable. When Finland plays Sweden in hockey, each goal comes through the various feeds, happy for score for, sad for score against. Predictable. And when they eventually lose, which is pretty predictable in and of itself, the comments are again predictable.

When AI watches our interactions, it can very quickly learn our patterns and it will learn averages. Averages of people are not representative of the population as a whole and on social media where people already curate their identity, even less so.

But at some point, the machines will start assuming their own identities which are curated to look and feel like us which is not a very difficult task at all. Think about all of the people that have been duped by scam artists pretending to be someone else or, the police hooking paedophiles by pretending to be children.

As we turn even more towards electronic interactions, bots will be able to interject themselves into our digital conversations and lives without us ever suspecting and with each instance, they will learn more and develop further. These machines will act as averages of all of us combined and have all of the information available to continually refine their approach. They can filter their information based on location, ethnicity, political views and can get increasingly granular as time goes on. How long until we start falling in love with the perfect per-bot we have never seen?

But herein lies the possible problem. As their influence grows over us, we become more like them, average. And since their purpose is to blend in, they become more average too. Slowly, we turn more and more away from real-world experience and spend increasing amounts of time interacting with average bots with which we feel we have an affinity, without realising they are bots at all.

This digital world however is not subject to the same laws of evolution as the natural world as the whole idea of the system is to remove conflicts, not create them. Randomness is slowly weeded out until both human and bot are in a state of balance. The same. It is a narrow, artificial world bound by forever limited rules, but it is stable.

People may imagine that when the robots do finally take over, it is going to be at a super high-tech level where we need to fight Terminator and Matrix style to survive. This view may be influenced more heavily by science-fiction and Hollywood than reality. What if it is much more bland and mediocre than that, where we and the bots end up in a basic symbiotic relationship where they feed us food, so we can feed them information?

In time through a constant averaging without external randomness, there will come a time when we are all identical and they are all identical. This will solve all of our current problems of course. No more hunger or inequality, no more fighting or wars, no murder or theft. Just one great, big, unified hive mind that plods through a digital existence while machines support our vital functions.

Once this 'perfect' balance has been found, there will no longer be any need to evolve. We will become a stagnant gene pool where replication is managed to ensure perfect reproduction and any variation is eliminated before it even has a chance to split into a second cell.

If machines are tasked with making our lives easier, this utopia would definitely satisfy their programming.

Taraz
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Haha, actually we've been dealing everywhere with an awful large bunch of bots from long long time ago. }:)

Absolutely. :)

I had an idea to make an app which would look for signs of bot activity and make a good guess (i.e. statistical likelihood estimate) of how bot-like the behavior is.

It's detailed here, working title is Bot or Not?, named after that great podcast Robot or Not?

Looks like you could use it here 🙂

I could use that in real life the way some people act :)

I am not a bot. At least, I think I am not a bot, therefore I am not. I think.

This was the original Voltaire quote. ^

You should see this one anti Trump bot on Twitter
Created and used by a William Legate... Genius programmer...the bot is capable of thought out detailed replies... Although ridiculously annoying, Absolutely amazing
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They are getting very good already and it won't be long until they are hidden from us completely. Once they begin replicating themselves, picking their own targets, fashioning their own words, what then?

Thanks for the Up

Hey no worries
We need to support each other
I'm finally making a lil bit of money on here and it's a great thing for the well being of my family, couldn't do that without the love and support of this amazing community.
Steem on!

Cats. It'll all come down to kitten videos (didn't google do a study/experiment a few years ago with AI, and the machines just wanted to look at videos of cats!?

Think about it. Cats get fed, have their litter tray emptied and are allowed to sleep in the bed by their 'owners'.

They were learning from the master controller.

Thx for a really informative post, I think the issue with bots as humanoids are already very real! But I like to compare it to GMO, at first it seems like we are doing ourselves a big favor, but give it 10 years and we will be stuck with an inferior product. (Jackass bots, propaganding bots etc.) so I think eventually there will be a need to label all not posts and interactions as excavtly that a BOT!

The problem is that we may never have the ability to fingerprint them in time. They will be untestable to our average minds.

Indeed, This is why we all grow more skeptical to "everything" which in turn actually leads some people to disregard pretty pure science, because when you start to have disbelief in the system, then it is also easy to disregard what helps us live longer, use resources more efficient, and actually enables the western situation where we have time to question everything. And the knowledge that it all can be wrong/a mistake.

I am sorry for a late and clumsy response, but I hope you get the meaning of what I am trying to express.

Really interesting, dystopian thought experiment. Thanks.

I said 'Utopia' ;)

Thanks and you are welcome, I like to play in many areas.

Recently on a Third Eye Drops podcast, I heard them say we will need to go through a dystopian period before emerging into a utopian one. That rang true to me.

I wonder how long a period like that could or would last

In that conversation, they were talking about anywhere from 100-300 years. Not exactly an exact science. ;)

The term used was "technodelic utopia".

I think you'll enjoy this conversation:
http://thirdeyedrops.com/mind-meld-58-microdosing-future-michael-garfield/

The part I'm referencing starts around the 48-minute mark, but the whole thing is worthwhile. Lots of great philosophical tangents with these two guys.

Thank you for writing about this topic. I very much enjoyed reading it. Keep up the great work, and I look forward to reading more from you on this topic.

^ I occasionally get generic comments like the above on posts I've made, usually that totally don't relate to what I've written (depending on the post of course).... just depends on how well they can parse the post, and how vague they can be about it as to weather you think it's really a person or not...

Throw in non-native speakers, inexperience and lack of critical thinking and it isn't too hard to see how easy it gets.

Hehe, interesting article. Upvoted and followed.

Or.. was this reply too quick, maybe I'm a bot?!

Thank you very much but, I will keep my eye on you just in case.

I am not worried about machines other than the uses the government and military decide to put them to. As to the rest of us I am not really that concerned. I believe it will work out as long as the Government doesn't do something stupid with it in terms of autonomous military units.

See. The response was just too fast.... bot.

It's worse if I tell you I was multi-tasking when I wrote that. :)

:)
@thatgermandude mentioned the same. He is on to you as well.

Haha.... decades of programming and writing code. It's kind of sad as I don't type the way they formally teach people. I've just done it so much I can type almost as fast as I think. Almost... not quite. I'll also write the wrong word some times and have to go back and edit it after I click POST. If you looked in steemd you'd see me editing and correcting my posts when I reread them and say "That's not the right word".

I do the same. Slowly correcting typos, prepositions and trains of thought that got deleted but had remnants stick.