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RE: And So... It All STARTED?

in #philosophy6 years ago

Where will I go to get my dinner? And why will they give it to me? Will they give me anything I demand? What if everyone decides they want to eat beef fillets for dinner? There is not enough to go around. Who will get the limited amount of fillets and who won't? Every restaurant will be demanding tons of fillets from the cow growers. Which restaurants should the cow growers give their beef to? And how much? Do the cow growers have to give the restaurants everything they are demanding? How can they when there isn't enough to go around? Who will decide what stores get what meat? What about the supermarkets? Can I walk in and fill up my cart with whatever I want? Can the supermarkets demand whatever they want from the cow growers? How will the cow growers decide who gets the meat, the restaurants, or the supermarkets? What will they base their decision on?

And this is just one item.

Imagine that scenario for every single food item, and every other necessity, and also every luxury item. This is why a "no money" economy will not ever work. It would turn into a cluster-fuck of unanswerable questions.

The infrastructure is built on a free market pricing system. Look how the free market would handle the fillet problem. Everyone starts demanding fillets. Restaurants can only get so much from their cow growers, so they raise the price of fillets until fewer people buy them, lowering the demand. The cow growers see that all their restaurants are demanding fillets, so they can raise their prices too as restaurants fight over the limited supply. Restaurants buy less fillets as they start to cost too much. Customers start to buy less because they cost too much. And a new balance between supply and demand is achieved.

This is the battle that is being fought, over every economic good, every day.

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the current society is absolutely wasteful, and that is mainly why we work so much... reduce the waste and contribute less.

You also assume that money is an irresistible incentive... yes we can see that, we are all economic slaves now. Wrong.

Until you begin to think beyond these fallacies, you wont be able to fathom a society where people are aware that overproduction is a crime against nature and humanity. And that man's needs will have to comply to that.

These two last blogs have established that consumers are BRAINWASHED, yet you continue to argue in favor of a massive distortion of demand vs supply. The "I want it now" culture will have to be abandoned if we want to quit overproducing. Yes, there will be waiting lines every now and then, especially for furnitures and cars. Each mode has its downsides, but waiting to have your dinner is BETTER THAN DESTROYING the environment.

There is absolutely nothing I can do for you. You cannot awaken yourself to the fact that everything in our society is driven by lies for the sake of consumption. Profits.

Do the cow growers have to give the restaurants everything they are demanding?

In money-free society a majority of people will choose to eat CULTURED MEAT, so no more pestilent feedlots whose livestock is kept on life support with antibiotics and now threatened with super bugs, no more 2 billions of pound of meat surplus. In a money-free society most people will eat meat occasionally, will prefer vegetarianism, because today we give livestocks what could feed half of world population. This meat overcomsumption makes us deeply sick on top of that. BigPharma will no longer exist either.

Can I walk in and fill up my cart with whatever I want?

thanks to brainwashing, because wholesome foods is all what you will find in supermarkets in a money free society. People will do all their cookies and lemonades, etc at home as they have plenty of time to rediscover the joy of food processing. Or it will be done by some very creative people in the community who love doing this exclusively. City gardens will also be a huge trends and people interested in growing crops instead working whatever mindless cubicle jobs. Most processed foods one buys today gives cancer or diabetes anyway. Just an example

But you didnt watch the this presentation yet, did you??? ... because if you do NOT accept that the problem is REAL...then you will reject all solutions... any solutions.

In money-free society a majority of people will choose to eat CULTURED MEAT

So you are even further restricting the supply of meat. This means even LESS is available for distribution. This will make the problems I outlined even MORE intense. You have answered none of the questions about who will get this even further restricted supply of meat. Who will get the even more limited amount of meat, the restaurants or the supermarkets? Will I be able to walk into a supermarket and fill up my cart with "cultured meat"? Can I order cultured meat every time I walk into a restaurant? There will not be enough cultured meat for everyone, who will decide who gets it? Who will decide how much cultured meat an individual or business can receive? How will the limited supply be distributed fairly?

These same problems exist for vegan foods. These same problems exist for every economic good. Everything that has a price is limited in amount. This is why things have a price. There is not enough of it to go around, so some way has to be in place to reduce demand for it. As the price of a good goes up, the demand decreases.

The reverse is also true. When there is a lot of one particular good and/or low demand, the price will start to drop. As the price drops, the demand goes up, and this reduces the over supply of that good. How will your "no money" economy handle the problem of over supply? What if corn growers grow too much corn? What if everyone decides they want asparagus instead? What will happen to all the extra corn? Will people be forced to take corn? Or will it be left to rot?

This is another problem that you "money free" economy can't solve. The free market is constantly changing every day. The demand and supply of every good is constantly shifting and changing. Prices change in reaction to the changing conditions. How will a "money free" economy adjust to all the constantly changing conditions in the economy?

As to what people eat, that is their decision. I haven't had any refined sugar for the last 3 months. Zero. It is not hard to do, you just have to decide what you want to put in your mouth. If more people decided to eat healthy, the market would respond and produce more healthy food. That people choose to eat unhealthy food is not the fault of money. The free market provides what people demand. There is a large demand for cheap, fast, and sugary foods, so the market obliges.

Thinking that people will become self sufficient homesteaders is laughable and impossible. 55% of the world's people live in cities with no room to grow enough to sustain themselves. These people would all starve. But you don't care that 4.2 billion souls will starve, because you don't like money. You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs, eh?

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