There could be clear cut guidelines in place that if you use @buildawhale for something like this, the vote will be pulled and the person doesn't get a refund. If you've already taken money from people that are blacklisted in the past and not returned it, I don't see where expecting you to pull a vote from garbage like this is a stretch. Do you want repeat business that hurts the platform?
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For clarification, I'm not trying to single you out here, but most of the other bidbot operators don't really seem to give much of a shit about stuff like this. In the grand scheme of things, I understand the logic that stake weight is essentially being rented and whatever they do with it is going to happen, but I don't think anyone is going to be upset with you if you pull the vote and tell this guy that you don't want his business anymore. If you do want his business and don't give a shit, then don't bother defending yourself on the "It's not my fault he misused a service I offer" comment above. Just my two cents.
Shit posting is good for bid bots and upvote selling businesses . As long as there are shit posters that cant get exposure in any way on their own, you will always have someone buying votes.
The worse the content gets, the better off bot owners are due to a bigger pool of potential users. There is nothing more Anti-Steem then bot and upvote services.
@themarkymark can make all the blacklists he wants but you simply cannot escape that.
Bots live from shit posting. You can have an occasional, "sure, maybe this deserves a 1000USD if it was voted for ORGANICALLY"... But it still remains that it was self upvoted. Its not really trending, it wasnt picked by the community.
There just isnt a way for bots to be used "properly" and not fail.
Every time a shitty post makes it to trending with an upvote from @buildawhale, people are going to blame you. It does not matter if it is your fault or not. It does not matter if you have a blacklist a mile long and spend 20 hours a day updating it. This is the world you are in. GET A CLUE.
It's funny, I am the only bot owner (out of what like 100?) hunting spam, plagiarism, abuse, removing votes, flagging garbage, and blacklisting bad actors that ends up costing me money, and you in the peanut gallery only talk shit about me.
Good for you Mark. Throwing a bucket with gasoline on the fire with one hand and using a water gun with the other.
Maybe the other bot owners are just honest in their greed to not participate in the discussion riding this out till the house burns down...
Honestly.. I have no idea why you even try anything. Its not that any critic will be amazed by the work or that you will do any tangible good to offset the shit posts trending...
Your grandious statements of greatly developed personal moral sense isnt convincing me.
Kill buildawhale and youll convince me.
And btw... Did i win your comment competition of the number 1 issue Steem is facing? Or was the winner picked based on your personal opinions. 😘😉
Well Firefly is one of my favorite shows so i cant say you "suck". But concerning your contribution to Steem... I just told you... A watergun to a bucket of gasoline. And wer sitting here both commenting in the middle of the wildfire you helped ignite talking about your claims of you being a moral compass.
Ffs Mark. Regardless of this childish, milllenial, "talk to the hand", "popcorn" nonsense, deep down you know what youre doing is hurting everyone. You actually do have human decency or you wouldnt give 2 "crap posts" about what any of us here are saying and you wouldnt be responding to this criticism time and time and time again. I get bored talking about bots. But youre always here with the same thing day in day out. Responding how youre not bad with your "cool" popcorn responses. How youre trying.
You want validation. You crave it. You will get it if you kill buildawhale and take on a @utopian@dtube@dsound@dlive type project. Click those links, their drama aside, those are actual platforms that bring value.
This guy has had a 3 month break from posting articles and even comments. Then suddenly this. This is unbearable. Is there anyway to fix this so it is fair by all the other users who work very hard. When something like this comes up in the TRENDING page on top people are all going to get upset.
Yes it is. A shitty picture that has been proudly upvoted by @buildawhale.
Yes, I made the picture, I bid for the vote, I knew he would use 30 bots, and I knew it was coming. Get a clue.
There could be clear cut guidelines in place that if you use @buildawhale for something like this, the vote will be pulled and the person doesn't get a refund. If you've already taken money from people that are blacklisted in the past and not returned it, I don't see where expecting you to pull a vote from garbage like this is a stretch. Do you want repeat business that hurts the platform?
edit
For clarification, I'm not trying to single you out here, but most of the other bidbot operators don't really seem to give much of a shit about stuff like this. In the grand scheme of things, I understand the logic that stake weight is essentially being rented and whatever they do with it is going to happen, but I don't think anyone is going to be upset with you if you pull the vote and tell this guy that you don't want his business anymore. If you do want his business and don't give a shit, then don't bother defending yourself on the "It's not my fault he misused a service I offer" comment above. Just my two cents.
Shit posting is good for bid bots and upvote selling businesses . As long as there are shit posters that cant get exposure in any way on their own, you will always have someone buying votes.
The worse the content gets, the better off bot owners are due to a bigger pool of potential users.
There is nothing more Anti-Steem then bot and upvote services.
@themarkymark can make all the blacklists he wants but you simply cannot escape that.
Bots live from shit posting. You can have an occasional, "sure, maybe this deserves a 1000USD if it was voted for ORGANICALLY"... But it still remains that it was self upvoted. Its not really trending, it wasnt picked by the community.
There just isnt a way for bots to be used "properly" and not fail.
Every time a shitty post makes it to trending with an upvote from @buildawhale, people are going to blame you. It does not matter if it is your fault or not. It does not matter if you have a blacklist a mile long and spend 20 hours a day updating it. This is the world you are in. GET A CLUE.
It must be great to carry no responsibility at all, yet still make money. Kudos!
It's funny, I am the only bot owner (out of what like 100?) hunting spam, plagiarism, abuse, removing votes, flagging garbage, and blacklisting bad actors that ends up costing me money, and you in the peanut gallery only talk shit about me.
Have it, I got plenty of popcorn.
Good for you Mark. Throwing a bucket with gasoline on the fire with one hand and using a water gun with the other.
Maybe the other bot owners are just honest in their greed to not participate in the discussion riding this out till the house burns down...
Honestly.. I have no idea why you even try anything. Its not that any critic will be amazed by the work or that you will do any tangible good to offset the shit posts trending...
Your grandious statements of greatly developed personal moral sense isnt convincing me.
Kill buildawhale and youll convince me.
And btw... Did i win your comment competition of the number 1 issue Steem is facing? Or was the winner picked based on your personal opinions. 😘😉
I do more in one day for Steem than most do since they got here. But sure tell me how I suck. I got popcorn.
Well Firefly is one of my favorite shows so i cant say you "suck". But concerning your contribution to Steem... I just told you... A watergun to a bucket of gasoline. And wer sitting here both commenting in the middle of the wildfire you helped ignite talking about your claims of you being a moral compass.
Ffs Mark. Regardless of this childish, milllenial, "talk to the hand", "popcorn" nonsense, deep down you know what youre doing is hurting everyone. You actually do have human decency or you wouldnt give 2 "crap posts" about what any of us here are saying and you wouldnt be responding to this criticism time and time and time again. I get bored talking about bots. But youre always here with the same thing day in day out. Responding how youre not bad with your "cool" popcorn responses. How youre trying.
You want validation. You crave it. You will get it if you kill buildawhale and take on a @utopian @dtube @dsound @dlive type project. Click those links, their drama aside, those are actual platforms that bring value.
That fig leaf doesn't stretch quite far enough to cover the rather nasty side-effects of bidbots and delegating to them.
We are, however, not surprised you have plenty of popcorn.
This guy has had a 3 month break from posting articles and even comments. Then suddenly this. This is unbearable. Is there anyway to fix this so it is fair by all the other users who work very hard. When something like this comes up in the TRENDING page on top people are all going to get upset.
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