John Podesta Returns - What it looks like when your credibility is disintegrated

in #pizzagate8 years ago

John Podesta has returned from hiding with tweet --

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Naturally, the master of propaganda is merely 'asking' questions about Russian 'involvement' in the recent election.

I'm sure he knew he would catch flak given the 'pizza-related' news swirling around him for the past month, but not sure he expected this.

Oops.

Lots of ammo was fired in his direction in the 45 minutes since he posted. Here are some of the best samples:

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Why are you covering this when there's a perfectly good rumor going around that Russia tried to help the candidate that didn't want war with Russia.

SOOOOO Unamerican!

Russia trying to help Trump is only that. A rumor. Hitlary Clinton is just trying to find more and more excuses to remove Trump from office; she's a sore loser.

This may seem counterintuitive but I don't think it's Hillary. I think it's the following she's developed and the climate she's been a part of

johnpodesta John Podesta tweeted @ 12 Dec 2016 - 19:49 UTC

Serious questions about Russia's involvement in the US election deserve answers. https://t.co/3OV5Q5TO3R

Disclaimer: I am just a bot trying to be helpful.

John Podesta tweeted, "where are the children? I paid for 50 minutes of pizza, damnit!"

John Podesta tweeted, "Pizza isn't so funny anymore. #FakeMedia #AltRight #DonaldTrumpNaziWhores"

John Podesta tweeted, "Do you think i'd play dominos better in James Alefantis's chiller room, or in Tony's art gallery?"

John Podesta tweeted, "I'm a lost #FuctUp #Cnut. I think I need a map."

Thanks for providing the pertinent tweets in such a concise way, its the kind of thing I've been asking of others for some time, but just keep getting loads of conspiracy videos, rants and childish behaviour up to now. Because of this it's very difficult to separate facts from conjecture and searching the internet is like wading through bull shit to find any actual nuggets of useful information.
I must say these tweets do seem suggestive of some sort of code being used, but it's not really conclusive. The first tweet needs some explaining I think, the second one is understandable just stating that pizza isn't funny anymore given the furore around "pizzagate". This second one does seem to suggest that whatever "pizza" was code for, was something Podesta found funny - maybe was some kind of "in joke" between friends. This could be something sinister or maybe just a sick sense of humour....again I think it's inconclusive.
The 3rd tweet can be taken for what it appears to be, a simple question regarding dominoes, though again it can be suggestive of some kind of code word. It would be helpful to know if the words "pizza" and "dominos" are very well known paedophile terminology, or if that is just conjecture? I think knowing the answer to this would impact my view strongly one way or the other.
The 4th tweet does not appear in anyway suspect to me, he appears to be just joking that as he is "lost" emotionally or whatever, he needs a map - a play on words kind of thing.
Has anyone considered the possibility that maybe he's just got a very sick taste in humour to go with his dark taste in Art....just asking? I just find it quite incredible that a well known and clearly intelligent guy would knowingly tweet incriminating evidence against himself, in very thinly veiled code words and broadcast it to the world.
I'd be interested to hear what Podesta himself says about the matter in his defence but can't find anything anywhere. Is it the case that he hasn't answered anything, as I heard he went off-line for a while? Could the possibility be that he was being investigated during this period? Like I say, it';s very difficult to find any actual info without wading through bull shit, so I appreciate your comment.

It's called "taking the piss" @alkafir - They're all satirical.

Thank you blake upvoted back

It's possible that the Podestas are not the culprits in the Madeleine McCann case. I, for one, never trust police statements solely at face value. A couple of days ago, I've watched the Crimewatch episose in which they shared the Podesta-like e-fits and I have to say this tv program looked to me like one hell of a fake crime solving reality tv show. The McCann story is new to me but not to this Thomas Baden-Riess dude. He is convincing that the story was fishy from the start and I like how is brain works, studying all the possibilities.

Here are the 3 videos I'm refering to, for Steemians' pleasure:

Crimewatch UK - October 2013 Madeleine Mccann Special

Madeleine McCann, The Podesta Brothers & Pizzagate

The Madeleine McCann Conspiracy: Sir Clement Freud

On mccann, I stumbled across this the other day:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1563090/Madeleine-McCann-died-from-overdose.html

By Gary Cleland 7:00AM BST 14 Sep 2007

evidence found in the McCanns' hire car will "prove that the little girl had ingested medicines, without doubt sleeping pills, in large quantities".

A source at the newspaper claimed: "We are not simply repeating rumours carried in other papers. This is not a theory, but a fact contained in hard evidence in the hands of the Portuguese authorities.

Here, there is a very similar case to the one of Madeleine McCann, that as kept Quebecers' attention toward a nation wide story of a singular child abduction. The girl is Cedrika Provencher (notice the scouts-like outfit on the Wikipedia picture) and she has made the news and posters everywhere since about the same time as McCann.

I always felt it was weird that one disappearance would have so much publicity, when we know from the statistics that thousands of children go missing without being much notice by the media. One year ago, almost to the day, it was said that they finally discovered her bones, but I'm having difficulties taking as granted anything coming out of this whole kidnapped poster-child thing. It's as if the authorities are using her as a symbol saying: "hey, we are actively doing our job!"; while maybe hiding the fact that they are neglecting other children.

Right now, a suspect is making the news at the same as they have reopened McCann's affair (for show?) on the old continent. Just like the news piece you are pointing at, there is a car believed to be important to the vanishing of this little Canadian girl.

Yes... Some reports put the number of children who go missing at 200,000 annually for the USA and 100,000 for the UK. That's a LOT of children :-/

On the shallow surface, does John Podesta look like a man you'd let babysit your children or a man you'd expect to see on "To Catch A Predator"?



Thanks for sharing the JOYExcellent. Still fuming. Sick fuck #Podesta My Facebook is known for rants. Feel free to come and be nosy. I'll try to be polite on Steemit. On Fb I don't really give a rat's ~ https://www.facebook.com/lillyllew

I think it's both.

So, reading just the very top few of some of the "best samples" of the "ammo" fired, the first is from "Chubby Hillary" calling the guy "turtle face" and some nonsensical remark about Atheists? As an Atheist myself , I would hazard a guess that very few of us hold any belief in any form of supernatural ideas - particularly of this whacko nature and it is quite an offensive and ill informed generalisation.
If these type of remarks are the best ammunition you have, then no wonder the vast majority of people just ignore you. If you have any kind of a case, then you do both it and the alleged abused children a massive dis- service. Maybe find some evidence and find a grown up to argue your case (all those posting about "pizzagate) - this is just childish.

So, you're offended by someone that tweeted something to someone else? You, as a total stranger and brand new account, are jumping in my thread throwing out ad hominems, while simultaneously telling me I'm not being taken seriously?

Read my previous posts on the Podesta emails. Those are the cores of this investigation. Until a journalist or LEO actually asks Podesta, or the Sandlers what a 'pizza related handkerchief map' is, the global investigation will continue and be limited to the abundance of circumstantial and contextual/historical evidence that exists.

"So, you're offended by someone that tweeted something to someone else?"
No, actually, but that's quite a hypocritical and rich remark coming from someone who is offended by someone that emailed something to someone else and completely negates whatever point you were making in any case.
"You, as a total stranger and brand new account"
Yes.....how dare I?.....lol. As to the ad-hominem claim, I did clarify that I meant all those posting this "pizzagate" conspiracy stuff - not particularly you personally - here's what I said:
"Maybe find some evidence and find a grown up to argue your case (all those posting about "pizzagate) - this is just childish." I think it's fair comment. If you read what I actually said, it's clearly intended to convey that the case being presented is not being taken seriously because of the way it is being presented. It is this type of behaviour, childish remarks etc that puts people off - not things like the NYT article. As I said, if there's any substance to the claims, then you (all of you) are doing any abused children a major dis-service. If you were to state your case clearly and succinctly and provide actual evidence and present it maturely, without all the "add-ons" and going down rabbit -holes you MAY get more serious people more attentive.....is all I'm saying.
"Until a journalist or LEO actually asks Podesta, or the Sandlers what a 'pizza related handkerchief map' is, the global investigation will continue and be limited to the abundance of circumstantial and contextual/historical evidence that exists."
OK then, so this is the issue, no law enforcement/Judge/Court whatever is going to convict anyone of such serious offences based on circumstantial evidence only - however abundant.
If your case rests entirely in the hope that a journalist/LEO asks Podesta what a "pizza related handkerchief map is" and that he's going to say "ritual abuse of children" or something, then it's not going to happen is it? He's going to say "It's a handkerchief with a map of local pizza restaurants" or similar isn't he......and where does that get you?
What you need is actual evidence, not hearsay, not videos, not conspiracy theories - evidence.
Does any exist anywhere?

Now that was one hell of a loooooong sentence - grammar is your friend if you want to convey your argument to somebody. Do you seriously think I don't know Atheism isn't a Religion (not even an "ism" in fact....lol)? Not really following you and not only because you said it all in one breath. Do you have any evidence whatoever to substantiate your yell of "ACTUAL CHILDREN BEING KILLED"? Yes or No....simple question?

Do you have any evidence whatoever to substantiate your yell of "ACTUAL CHILDREN BEING KILLED"?

Are you arguing that a lack of bodies means that this is all fabricated? If you think finding witnesses is going to be easy for something like this, you don't understand how a network like this operates.

Both of the videos demonstrate similar patterns of ritualistic abuse and murder, in different locations in different times, all involving people in positions of power. Contextual evidence that historically backs up the possibility of such a thing existing today.

"Are you arguing that a lack of bodies means that this is all fabricated?"
No, but nice try at the straw man. I simply asked if the guy had any evidence to substantiatiate his yell. I WOULD however argue that a lack of bodies, or any other type of evidence for the claims being made means this is all hearsay. The burden of proof is on the person making the claim - not on the person you are trying to convince. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.......and I haven't seen any. Insofar as the videos go, can I ask that we keep on topic, rather than go further down the rabbit hole? I'm from the UK and know all about the Jimmy Saville case - a media celebrity that abused his position to molest/abuse children.....disgusting and sickening yes, but not involving any ritualistic abuse or murder or institutional complicity a far a I know - and not in any way connected to the "pizzagate" claims.


You state:
"You want to say I made that claim that I have proof of children being killed? Provide the quote in context instead of putting words in my mouth."
No, I did not make that claim, I asked:
"Do you have any evidence whatoever to substantiate your yell of "ACTUAL CHILDREN BEING KILLED"?
Again, to put your words in "context" as you say, or quote the whole sentence rather, makes no difference......and as your opening sentence is 9 lines long, I'm obviously not going to re-post the whole thing. The best I can do is "material which obviously has little to do with philosophical concerns and more with ACTUAL CHILDREN BEING KILLED."
Like I said....it makes no difference to what I asked. Clearly it is not me who is twisting things and putting words in mouths - and I've just evidenced it.Lol......there isn't any "sensible context" to put it in, whether or not I quoted the whole sentence, I said the tweeter called the guy "turtle face", which she did and it is childish.....that's all. How does quoting the whole "Took a break from #SpiritCooking from your lair, turtle face" make it any less childish or more in context? I'm not "confusing, fabricating, or twisting anything. No idea what any part of"keep placating on your Atheist views of how to trulllolol" even means - maybe consult a dictionary or something.

Thank you for sharing. Tweeted.