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RE: WHAT IS STEEM LOOKING LIKE AFTER HARDFORK 22

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Pretty much agree with everything you say here Nonso 👍

I'm in the hospital right now so can't write more of a long response. Personally I think that delegations have ruined steem. Without them there would be no bidbots.

P.s. not many people speak truth on steem because of the FACT that you'll suddenly lose support from certain people if you speak these truths. Good on you for not buying into the BS. One thing never changes, there are people here who earn tones for basically dressing up their opinion in pretty words, then there are a load of people who actually create interesting stories etc. One is massively overvalued and it's a shame, because no one outside of steem is interested in steemians opinions about steem... no matter how well written.

P.p.s. I'm not talking about you here, there are many of the 'top steemians' - tarazkp is one that comes to mind - who write very well, but 99.9% of they write is about steem. If all whales and orcas support is these steem-centric authors, then newsteem will fail because even in the case of a bull run, there will be nothing here for new steemians to read that they will understand.

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Personally I think that delegations have ruined steem. Without them there would be no bidbots.

Before delegations and bid bots there were off-chain deals. It's a very narrow view to blame delegations. Besides, to view Steem as a blogging platform as it was in 2016 and and 2017 is very narrow a view. There is vast potential for delegations to be used for many purposes.

P.p.s. I'm not talking about you here, there are many of the 'top steemians' - tarazkp is one that comes to mind - who write very well, but 99.9% of they write is about steem. If all whales and orcas support is these steem-centric authors, then newsteem will fail because even in the case of a bull run, there will be nothing here for new steemians to read that they will understand.

Steem itself is a difficult topic for newbies to understand, which is why Steem-centric content will be welcome. I do agree with you, however, that other topics are very much necessary but I think Tribes are already addressing that need and communities will do so even more in the future.

Tribes are already addressing that need and communities will do so even more in the future.

I'm afraid I don't agree. The result of tribes, when you get down to brass tax, is that people are being brainwashed into thinking that the rewards they get in the tribe token should be enough for their content. Tribe tokens aren't worth fck all. Basically, we're all being sold the idea that it's acceptable to go back to the start for us... Meanwhile those who actually get decent post rewards in steem continue the circle jerks and actually make some money.

Of course, if tribes succeed then I'll be proven wrong and I'd be happy to be.

As to what you're saying about delegations. I don't think I have a narrow view at all. Without the delegation mechanism projects would have had to actually invest in steem power to incentivise their target audience. This would have created buy pressure on the token offsetting some of the sell pressure that had plagued steem. I'm not the first to point out this negative of the delegation mechanism. During the bull run steem had a massive userbase and potential market for projects to target. Many would have bought SP if they hadn't have been gifted SP. Meanwhile steemit.incs SP could have been put to work in many ways we can't even envision because it didn't go that way.

An informed opinion is very different to a narrow view Mark.

I'm afraid I don't agree. The result of tribes, when you get down to brass tax, is that people are being brainwashed into thinking that the rewards they get in the tribe token should be enough for their content.

What should be enough for one's content is for oneself to decide. Every content creator alone will decide that for themselves.

Tribe tokens aren't worth fck all. Basically, we're all being sold the idea that it's acceptable to go back to the start for us... Meanwhile those who actually get decent post rewards in steem continue the circle jerks and actually make some money.

I thought the issue was the prevalence of Steem-centric content and not money. You said there was too much content about Steem here. I answered that Tribes and later Communities will address that implying that this is because they are focused on specific niches.

Of course, if tribes succeed then I'll be proven wrong and I'd be happy to be.

The tribes are so small that they're really just seeds that have the potential to grow into something larger. I think it's too early to judge the tribes. I think one tribe that has a very good chance of growing into something much bigger is DPorn. The adult industry has always been eager to adopt new technology. The PORN token or PORN POWER to be exact has one clear use case in addition to speculation already: it can be used to incentivize the content creators to create content to please you. The community is so small that everybody talks to everybody. Someone with a lot of PORN POWER is capable of simultaneously acting as both a consumer and a producer. That's something totally unique. Other tribes may have similar strengths deriving from their unique characteristics.

As to what you're saying about delegations. I don't think I have a narrow view at all. Without the delegation mechanism projects would have had to actually invest in steem power to incentivise their target audience. This would have created buy pressure on the token offsetting some of the sell pressure that had plagued steem. I'm not the first to point out this negative of the delegation mechanism. During the bull run steem had a massive userbase and potential market for projects to target. Many would have bought SP if they hadn't have been gifted SP. Meanwhile steemit.incs SP could have been put to work in many ways we can't even envision because it didn't go that way.

I don't think many of those apps would've bought any SP at all in that case, particularly not during the bull run when it was very expensive to do that. And no, Steem never had a massive user base. If we now have 10,000 unique daily active users, we may have had something like 50,000 at best. Steemit, Inc has always had very limited personnel to do anything with its SP which it holds mainly to power down and cover the cost of development, running full nodes and buying storage space for binary files from Amazon Web Services.

STEEM was already under massive buying power during the bull run but it wasn't sustainable as the entire altcoin market is still extermely speculative.

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Sorry about your health mate, wish you a speedy recovery. And yeah i feel some type of way when people keep regurgitating the same thing, but i believe if we can get his tribe thing working fine it won't really matter if someone like tarazkp talks about steem every day. It is of value to a lot of people within the steem ecosystem but i also wish a lot of people outside the ecosystem get to see and understand the same thing.

I dont really think delegation is a problem. It all depends on how it's been used. I have benefited from delegations and used it to curate manual some good content.