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RE: The Futures of Democracy

in #politics7 years ago

Right, okay you've read bookchin. So that whole chapter in ecology of freedom about,"Unity in diversity" didn't strike a chord with you?

Let me ask you this, how much do you work to organize.

In my local food not bombs chapter, there are plenty of Marxist-Leninists, who help with the food line, who donate money, etc.

Like, do you go out, face to face with people(as bookchin wanted us to do) and collborate?

Like online we like to argue about theory, but theory is nothing without praxis, right? Like we could talk all day about what,"socialism" should or shouldn't look like, but if we aren't working for it, what's the point?

You ever been to an anti-war march, in my town, the Party for socialism and liberation( a strictly marxist-leninist party) organizes most of the anti-war activity. Anarchists, socialists, and hell liberals of all sorts show up.

Like yes, the catholic workers do their yearly sacred peace walk, yes there are other anti-war activists, but we all come together when we need too.

That's what we need. Like, you're being an ultra-leftist dude.

Like, I don't like trots either, I think their theory is bad, I think their praxis is bad, because their entire praxis has been, split the left.

But I offer them,"critical support"

Here is the thing, I think you're caught up with the toxicity of the internet.

What the Left needs is to have some sort of unity, we lost the cold war, we lost( in the united states) the political struggle, occupy failed, standing rock failed, Bernie lost. now we are trapped in the rise of the horrid authoritarian right.

Understand our current circumstances, we can argue about specifics when we get some victories. We can't afford to be split. There are children being herded into cages.

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Yeah but im not being ultra-left about it, i have tried to get MLs to show up to rallies but they haven't showed face explicitly because "Anarchists would undermine our reasons for being there" and thats verbatim.

There is no part of what i wrote that was explicitly saying that MLs aren't helping the left and those who are vulnerable, the only thing that i have against them is their political supremacy against us. You seem to have this far-fetched idea that i am so against unity on the left that i'll do anything to stop it happening, that's not me that's the MLs here and the MLs that comrades of mine have tried to share a platform with and the MLs in question haven't even given thought to. I have a Maoist mate who organized a rally and invited Anarchists and MLs alike but only the Anarchists showed up so the issue aint with us, its some of your ML buddies who can't be arsed to swallow their fucking pride for a change.

I ain't aiming to split the left anymore than it already is. I've tried and failed, ive managed to get Social Democrats and Anarchists to work together i even got a bunch of Anprims to show up to a rally, even a few left coms, and the MLs didn't even bother their arse. When an MLM organizes something, invites anarchists, socdems and MLS and the MLs are the only ones who actively don't show face it goes to show who actually have the issue with left unity, and it aint the anarchists funly enough contrary to what you seem to think.