The "Alt-Right Lite": Watch out for Jared Howe and other "Alt-right Light" Confused Frog Men.

in #politics7 years ago (edited)

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The new "Alt-right Lite" movement that still refuses to disidentify itself with legitimate anarchist "movements" such as Voluntaryism and Anarcho-Capitalism is an unprincipled and potentially highly-dangerous one that must be called out.


Many of these "Alt-right Lite" individuals hint at the idea that "most Jews are bad" and often come out directly saying that some humans are genetically superior to others in reference r/K biological/evolutionary reproductive selection theory.


Here is an assortment of screenshots and quotes, just to give you an idea:


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Fascism and ethnic superiority. A great combo!

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One of Howe's cronies aping his r/K ideas in colorful fashion.

Jared and many other "Alt-right" folk really love Hans Herman Hoppe's ideas on immigration and ethnic "biodiversity." It's not hard to see why. Here's a direct quote from Hoppe:



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Here is a recent conversation I had with one of Howe's supporters. Notice the complete lack of understanding regarding the principle of individual self-ownership.


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Christopher Chase Rachels, self-proclaimed author of the "AnCap Bible" and creator of the new website radicalcapitalist.org, decided to cut communication with me when I pointed these things out (Howe writes for the site).


I'd like to end with some wisdom from Joshua Stewart and Jack V. Lloyd:


"A summary of the "libertarian fascist" movement:

-Western Culture (whatever that means) must be preserved.

-Leftists are anyone who wants communism or government to not enforce borders, but does not include white nationalist socialists or other statist "conservative" groups.

-To preserve Western Culture, a unified front of "right-leaning" political groups must emerge to take over government.

-After taking over government, government will institute right-wing death squads to murder all of those who support leftist ideals (whatever that will end up meaning as there appears to be quite a few gay conservatives). This purging will largely occur along racial lines as those who are considered dark-skinned, low IQ, and/or r-selected are default leftists. Most all Jews and blacks will be murdered.

-The fascist government will then institute full free-market capitalism.

-Government will fade as the economy takes over.

This is one of the most toxic cancers to have infected the liberty sphere in modern history."--

~Jack V Lloyd

Toxic cancer, indeed.

~KafkA

(P.S. I hate Communism, too.)

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Graham Smith is a Voluntaryist activist, creator, and peaceful parent residing in Niigata City, Japan. Graham runs the "Voluntary Japan" online initiative with a presence here on Steem, as well as Facebook and Twitter. (Hit me up so I can stop talking about myself in the third person!)

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It's frustrating because people will lump these types of fringe groups in with everyone else who is anti-establishment.. and most of us are not like that at all

Yeah, like with the car burners in Hamburg - they claim to be leftist, so every leftist is a car burner.

(I say claim here because there seems to have been a neonazi group there doing one of the worst plunderings.)

...so leftists were in fact burning cars?

Well, there were Hooligans burning cars. Those don't care about politics.

Then there were those left anarchists who attack shops to burn the TVs in them - anti-capitalists or more anti-consumerists.

Then there were those who, after seeing that, looked at each other and then entered the shops to take out the TVs to steal them. Consumerists you could say ;)

Then there are those who wanted to get provoked by police, and by lo the police played their part here.

The problem starts when you want to know how many cars have burned. I have only seen the result of one ca. 40 people big group walking through Hamburg for 10 minutes without any police stopping them. Those were there to burn cars (and indeed did nothing else on an empty street in the morning).
Until I see any other proof I consider them Hooligans. It is not normal even for the militant leftists to do that, especially in the middle of a living area and in that case I think in the center of "leftism" in Hamburg. The (German) militant groups have also released statements condemning that.

How many cars burned in other places - I have found no numbers.

Maybe. But the whole leftist ideology has no respect for property rights and is based on violence and looting. Also the Nazis were socialists as well. The difference between the two groups is rather small.

the whole leftist ideology has no respect for property rights

If you mean that they say you can't do things with your property that hurts others, then that is true. Wut is that wrong?

You are SO right. Here is my response to the fb thread you guys were in earlier. Don't get me wrong though, I like Chase. His book was fantastic. He does a great job at presenting his ideas and, overall, I think he's a great Ancap.

That said, his business dealing and partnerships with people like Howe are creating some major red flags for me.

Thank you for standing up to the core principles of voluntaryism. There are many lackeys aboard, and unfortunately, blind obedience to social media personalities (that's all Howe really is) is harmful to the concept of freedom.

Thanks for being a voice of reason. I really appreciate what you said there. I agree that Chase has done some remarkable work, and has a remarkably sharp mind. The thing is, so does Howe. That's why this type of subtle brainwash is so dangerous, I feel. A sharp mind can easily justify beliefs it wants to be true, and stray from sound, logical principle.

You were right to call him out on mincing words. I agree that he knew what I meant as well.

I really don't mean to attack anyone's person, as much as the ideas.

Cheers man. And thanks again.

Hahaha.... I don't have to worry about it Jared Howe muted me long ago when I didn't say the things he wanted to hear. :)

Some pretty messed up views, they do seem extreme!

"This purging will largely occur along racial lines as those who are considered dark-skinned, low IQ, and/or r-selected are default leftists. Most all Jews and blacks will be murdered."I think the low IQ would take care of a lot of alt right people.

Sadly, I would have to agree.

Republican disdain for colleges and universities climbs as you move further right on the spectrum: Whereas 43 percent of moderates believe higher education is harming the country, a whopping 65 percent of conservatives are against it.

http://boingboing.net/2017/07/11/get-a-brain-morans.html

Public education is demonstrably harming those forced to go through its 12 propagandizing years.

Compared to what?
No education?
Don't make me laugh.

Why must harm be "compared" to anything?

In my view, being taught things that are verifiably false, not being afforded privacy, or the opportunity to pursue one's natural academic interests freely, or engage with the community during daytime hours is extremely harmful to a child's development.

If you need a comparison, compare the nature of the psychological, emotional, and critical faculties of a kid from say, Summerhill School, or an unschooled child, to those of one that has gone through the standard system.

I don't see why this is something to laugh at... But oh well.

Why must harm be "compared" to anything?

I don't know. Because it does not male sense to put someone who stole a bubblegum to the same sentence then someone who murdered a group of school children?

I don't know what Summerhill School is, but I know what a child is, that has not even learned basic things or worse has been taught by homeschooling parents that the world is flat, the government sprays chemtrails and Hillary is a dinosaurier from Magellan.

This is ridiculous sonetimes...thanks for sharing

Okay, so let me make sure I've understood this correctly.

  1. Government grows large and fascistic enough to murder all undesirables.
  2. Anarcho-capitalism!

That's the plan, right? According to these people?

Lol. Think you've basically got it.

This is an oft repeated sequence of events, out of control marxist violence that pisses people off so much that they welcome (actual) fascists. Who then go on to purge all the subversivos (El Salvador was a great movie). This is the question thats been bothering me for a bit "How do we stand up against authoritarian marxist thuggery without empowering authoritarian right wing death squads?"

So true.

Its almost like people are being deliberately provoked towards hatred.

These days opinions fly and there's a following for just about all of them :(

The alt-right: "We're principled anarchists, except we support racism, collectivism, and government!"

Damn...he really took his lunacy right into Klan territory, didn't he?

Always seemed like a schmuck to me anyway. Isn't it great to see these guys giving the "liberty movement" such a good name? Way to advance freedom, fellas! Not that you were actually for that anyway...

Unreal, huh.

These "alt-right ancaps" must take the posts on 4chan /pol/ seriously.

Definately an extremist group. Read that those who were against the fighting ending up starting to fight. Lots of irony.

The new "Alt-right Lite" movement that still refuses to disidentify itself with legitimate anarchist "movements"

Does that sentence mean that in the US "anarchists" are offspring of the right side instead of being the more extremist lefts like in Europe??

Basically, yes. Except for the fact that traditional anarchism (in Spain, for example) has condoned the use of force and accepts authoritarianism as a necessity. This is an oxymoronic position.

Well, the right side can do that too, like crying "freedom of speech" for people saying nigger and then calling for harsh punishment for those who call them racists ;)

Really interesting, I have never though about anarchic rights, because here rights are always those who want more state when it comes to other things then companies - and certainly to people that are not like them. More border walls, more cameras, more rules (like language quotas in music), harshest punishments and so on.

Steemit anarchist's seem like freedom lovers(its still funny for me to to use reagan-speak like "freedom lovers" but what the hell do you call not wanting your thoughts "managed") but most of the anarchist's who get press(I have no idea how much they represent the anarchist community) seem to be anarcho-communists who should really read the history of how anarchists fared after the revolution they helped bring about was successful.(spoiler they were all shot right away, the book Gulag Archipelago spares them a few measly sentences in this thousand+ page book so quickly were they liquidated)

Now I get what an ANCAP is, anarcho-capitalist. I have a question what real-world examples of anarchy (not)managing a society successfully do anarchists wish to emulate? Do most of you seek a complete (un)system of anarchy or do you only wish to carve out an anarchic space within a structured system like "going a cossacking" in feudalist russia?

Thanks for the info. This sounds like the present day South Africa model and the problem I see with it is that Bill probably belongs to a social milieu that glorifies criminality. The neighbourhood where he's from they hate all security services and will all band together against any incursion into their area. Soon they form a voluntary association of muggers, slavers, and extortionists and they start paying individuals inside the different security services for tip offs on juicy targets. Which isn't really a specific critique against this idea because this happens inside states as well. It seems to me that in the situation above just like in South Africa, people with wealth will have private security and gated communities and people with no wealth will be ruled by criminal gangs. This sounds like anarchy! (in the pejorative sense), do you have any real world examples that you would point to and say "This is anarchy!(in the sense of Yay! look how free they are)

The huge difference being that South Africa is a state. The criminal actions you mention above would cause groups to starve to death and be ostracized socially until nobody would transact with them.

The reason the biggest crimes in the world are allowed to flourish now is because of governments that immunize criminals from consequence.

My concern with Anarchist right now is their hostility toward the Alt Right. There's different reasons people become Anarchists. The Alt Right movement has no established position on a state other than they are disillusioned with the current one. The movement is focused on nations which are groups of people, which is where the racist elements come in. In my opinion Anarchists should sell the Alt Right on Jesus being an anarchist (he was), and that races have differences but different races can be united as one nation under Christ. Even if you're an atheist, you make the that argument to that audience. Unless, you have a better argument for uniting different cultures. It's really something we need to have a discussion about and soon, bc I see anarchy potential in the Alt Right movement.

The best argument, in my view, is the one for reality itself. Individual self-ownership is an objective reality (nature-conferred highest self-executive capacity regarding body and mind) and if there is ever to be minimal violent conflict, that objective truth will have to be recognized.

I belong to the alt pro-anti-propoganda-everything-old-new leanings. Or did I missing something?

never heard of it, sounds ridiculous and stupid...if people have to identify themselves under any circumstance with a label they are already way behind consciously. It is just sad really, no pity.