Animals don't even have a concept of (private) property
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Try taking a lion of it's mate, and tell me they have no concept of property rights...
Self interest makes everything a 'for profit economy'.
If you look in the link down below you can see some examples of how ancient tribes would have social systems in place to mock those who even took large social credit for their hunting kills, let alone let them take resources from others who needed them.
Every civilization in the last 3500 years (agriculturally based economies) is based on resource accumulation.
Economies of exchange emerged. Capitalism.
capitalism took form and evolved in the industrial revolution a few hundred years ago. ....
Capitalism is the natural system of exchange, not a theory reliant on industrialization.
Ancient exchanges of ' let me have sex with you and I'll give you food' - is capitalism.
That's how long it's been around
A fundamental misunderstanding of the concept. Capitalism has nothing to do with money.
Intellect and ego combination can be a hard barrier to get around.
..this might help.
https://steemit.com/blog/@lucylin/fixing-your-own-mental-illness-a-perspective-from-someone-who-was-mentally-ill-session-1
also the basis of capitalism is not cooperation, that's the basis of human society,
Society came after cooperation, not before. After voluntary exchanges.
Society is a symptom of the success of capitalism.
Chicken and egg...
You should read "Debt: The First 5,000 Years" by the anarchist David Graeber.
.... "markets are founded and usually maintained by systematic state violence",
....with such a wildly incorrect premise, (quick look at wiki) why would I?
...Markets are founded through exchange between individuals. Period. That's what a market it.
They are not founded by systematic state violence, that's usurption of the system already established.
Usurption of the free market is maintained by the state.
The state it a control system of individuals.
You should not read das kapital..lol
https://steemit.com/blog/@lucylin/how-intelligent-are-your-teachers-or-more-importantly-how-stupid-are-you
Fuck Marx. Das Kapital is garbage. I suggested a book by an anarchist and anthropologist, not a Marxist.
Historically, primitive societies had gift economies, like the arrangements you might find in rural areas today. When my neighbor needs something, I just let him have it, then I know that he will help me when I need something. When I need a tool that my neighbor has, I borrow it from him rather than buy one, and I let him borrow my tools too. This has been called the "communism of everyday life." It's not communal ownership, just the principle "from each according to ability, to each according to need." This gift economy thing was the norm in primitive societies. Barter didn't emerge as a norm until after monetary systems already developed. (This assertion is based on archeological evidence and ancient written records, not mere speculation.)
Monetary systems were created by primitive States. A king would send his soldiers to take over neighboring communities, they'd loot and take all the gold and precious metals. The king would then melt down the metals and mint them into coins, then he'd give the coins to his soldiers. At the same time, the king would impose a tax upon the newly conquered subjects and demand that the tax be paid in the newly minted coins. This, of course, meant that the people had to aquire coins in order to pay taxes, thereby creating a demand for the soldiers' coins. The people would now accept the coins as payment for goods and services. In reality, money and markets are created by governments. The government created the money by spending it into existence when paying the soldiers and it created markets by demanding payment of taxes in government money.
Graeber's book is a good one, but there's tons of other books on the subject.
I wasn't suggesting you were a marxist! lol
I grew up on a farm , in a farming family, so yeah, I know how it works.
There is nothing for free though.
If you don't return the favors, (or other don't feel you are pulling your weight you won't get much help.)
It's capitalism just without a coin. The same dynamics apply, just that the payback is more subtle.
For sure, money makes it less personal, but that's due to the success of a community and lack of personal accountability through growing populations.
'Non money capitalism' is only possible through personal relationships.
We don't live in that world any longer, so money is the handiest 'favor' token for everyone to use.
Markets are created long before government. Governments theft of people property (or asset - tax) seems to be the way it goes, I agree - which lends itself to it being a 'natural' authority process in play.
'Might is right', and all that bs.
The fact this dynamic as emerged independently throughout pretty much all civilizations, tells me it's a system that people kind of desire...
Security in exchange for money.
On a small scale , it can, and has worked, - on a larger one we get fascism and communism..
We are still the tribal animal that settled 50,000 years ago, just with better furs and huts. Oh, and a brain that tells us we aren't.
(and their wifi was a joke! lol)
Gift economies aren't markets, unless you are just defining all economies as markets. But then full communism is still a market. So, communism would be capitalism?
Gift economies are markets (try growing up on farm, using this system - they are most definitely markets - value exists on peoples time and borrowed goods).
It's more subtle, but no less real.
Money is just a clearer 'delineate-or' of said time and borrowed goods..
Markets are a free exchange . Anything less is not a market. It's crapitalism or communsim.
Communism is not a free market. The price discovery mechanism can't function properly with any false pricing...
(Crapitalism is communism wearing drag)
A market is a system of trade. Two people exchanging isn't necessarily a market. Informal exchange based on gift economy arrangements isn't technically a market. It's only a market when there's a system in place, like a monetary system or a barter system. Two people trading or bartering isn't a market in and of itself.