Well after giving the muslim world Salah ad-Din and getting treated like dogs by the turks and the arabs what do you expect? You think they should side with the racists who have been persecuting them for the last century (at least)?
Well after giving the muslim world Salah ad-Din and getting treated like dogs by the turks and the arabs what do you expect? You think they should side with the racists who have been persecuting them for the last century (at least)?
Hello @openparadigm, to better understand the whole situation, I encourage you to read the three previous articles that I posted on steemit. They are much more in depth and will give you better clarity, and will most likely answer your question. If you have questions after reading those 3 articles feel free to ask me. Thank you.
Ok I read all three articles.
That you cite the participation in pogroms of dhimmis past and present as a source of shame for the kurds I agree with %100.
Your description of the Marxist terrorism is well written and accurate and it also applies to PLO/Fatah and their actions in Lebanon switch out Marxism for clerical fascism and you described the actions of hezbollah both groups supported by Iran and Syria. To me it seems that what Syria did to Lebanon is now happening to it, doesn't make it right what is happening to the syrian people.
I even agree that Israel is doing this or at least supporting the de-stabilization of Syria just like Syria did with hezbollah.
My question to you is who attacked who first?
Can you start a war, using all the tactics and crimes you justifiably ascribe to certain Kurds and the Israelis and then cry victim when these same tactics are used against you?
I think it's best to first separate the topic into two parts in order to answer your question fully.
(Plan A: "regime change") The US has been meddling in Syrian politics since the 1940's. In an article that I posted today on Steemit I discuss the plans that were made spanning a decade. I purposely only went over a decade of information due to the sheer volume of information. To go over all of the information I have gathered through my research from the 1940's till 2011 when the war began would be far too long for one article. I am actually working on a prequel to that article that I will most likely have out next month. In that upcoming article, I will go over plans from the 1940's till 2001. Which is where the article I posted today begins. Now I would call this part the US's Plan A. This is where they tried to carry out "regime change" by ousting President Assad, and putting in a puppet. They were unsuccessful... as you can see now that the war has carried on for over 6 years.
(Plan B: balkanize the country) By doing so weaking it and also setting up military bases so that they could 1. Protect Israel and 2. Keep an eye on Iran and attack if they felt the need to do so. This is where the Kurds come in. They are being used to partition the country and divide it into statelets based on sectarian lines.
Here is the article I mentioned in Part A https://steemit.com/news/@sarahabed/the-decade-long-u-s-campaign-to-foment-syria-s-revolution-and-unseat-assad
The actions of the american government and your characterization of them are not what I'm questioning, they've been meddling in the affairs of my country since 1776 which is why we burned the Whitehouse (they painted it white to cover the scorch marks) in 1812!
What I'm questioning is your criticism of Israel's support of groups that you correctly label as (A) Marxist terrorists and (B) clerical-fascist terrorists when that is precisely what the Syrian government did when they supported PLO/fatah and hezbollah. Do you disagree with my characterization of all these groups as equivalent?
Sure.
Here's something from your first article( very long I will get back to it)
The treatment of Kurds in Syria isn't a subject I'm well acquainted with but this quote leads me to wonder why they had to wait until 2012 to be granted citizenship(this group anyways). Although considering the situation in other gulf states that have large native populations with no citizenship status this does show Syria in a positive light compared to other countries in the region.
Why is it called Arab citizenship for me this term seems racist, the kurds aren't arab.
That being said as far as moral righteousness goes Syria is better than most in the area, just like their enemy(dating back to hellenic times) Israel.
Kurds have been crossing the border into Syria predominately from Turkey in waves since the 19th century. Rather than rejecting them they have been welcomed and treated fairly and even given rights like their Syrian counterparts.
“President Assad issued a decree granting Arab Syrian citizenship to people registered as foreigners in the (governorate of Hassake),” said the SANA news agency. The measure, which benefited about 300,000 Kurds, came a week after Assad tasked a committee with “resolving the problem of the 1962 census in the governorate of Hassake.”
In 1962 a census was done which determined that a number of Kurds had incorrectly registered themselves and their children in order to gain Syrian citizenship. 40,000 Kurds lost their Syrian citizenship as a result. Prior to that I believe (I would need to look back to confirm because I am going off of memory from reading hundreds of pages of information on this topic) they did not have an issue.
So basically 40,000 lost their citizenship in 1962 but 300,000 more were awarded citizenship in 2012. That would appear to be a very good compromise, and that's not to say that others didn't have citizenship.. they did but some lost it due to errors or false information they provided.
Think of it this way, if you seek refuge in the United States and during your application you give false information and then the department of homeland security or immigration realizes this.. what happens to you? Most likely you would be deported and your paperwork would be null and void correct? Well Syria did not take these harsh measures but instead allowed them to continue to reside and to live much like their Syrian counterparts.
As far as why it says Arab.. I am not exactly sure but it could have to do with the name of the country being the Syrian Arab Republic.. now does that mean that Aramean's who are Christian were treated differently because they were not technically Arab? No, not at all. In fact Syria is the only country in the Near/Middle East that is secular and nonsectarian.