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RE: Can "individuals" or "liberty" exist without privacy in a totally transparent society?

in #politics7 years ago

«I don't see the data to back up the idea that we live in a world which is more accepting» - In EU the number of legal (and illegal) immigrants is high like never before. There are no real actions to stop or even reduce this tendention. it can be proof of the idea that we live in more accepting society.

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I'd disagree. I see that as proof that people are unwise, willing to virtue signal because they want to LOOK good and APPEAR noble. This is not a sign people are more accepting. It's not true acceptance if you're always tried in a court of public opinion.

Tim Poole did a trip to Sweden and spoke with a Psychologist there about the culture on immigration. He had to blur his face and hide his voice because, even though he's well within his professional domain to speak about this, even hinting that you might think the culture is regressive and suppressing ideas is enough to potentially lose your job. Even hinting that all the migrants are bad for the country is enough to get you destroyed.

If you don't murder people because you have a gun to your head you're not being a good person. You're just keeping the gun at bay. It's not the same. And that's in a clear cut moral situation. The migrant crisis? It's not immoral to think they're being dumb letting so many in. And yet so many people treat it as if it is.

I Agree, that was unwise. And politcorrectiveness is rather overvalued today. But maybe lack of transparency in modern society and too much privacy allowed this trouble come true.

And I don't see immigrants being accepted. Tolerated might be the word you were looking for? And even then a lot of people want to close the borders and kick the immigrants out.

Yes, tolerated is closer. But question was about proof regarding acceptance level in modern society. This situation would not happened in 60-x, when society was not so tolerant as today. A lot of people would like to kick migrants out, but they will not do this.

Society as a whole isn't more tolerant today than in the 60s. That which is tolerated or "in" today was "out" in the 60s but the overall tolerance level doesn't seem to have changed. We have new groups which get persecuted today but the persecution hasn't exactly stopped. We have new groups which are more tolerated today such as homosexuals but this doesn't mean other new groups haven't replaced homosexuals in being persecuted.

So the data would have to show that humans in general are becoming more tolerant overall and it's not good enough to just look at any particular group which might go in and out of fashion.