I consider it optimistic. Accelerating destruction for creation. We can keep things going as they are with a slow decline killing more people (which we pretend not to know about) over these long drawn out years, or we can decline faster killing less people overall.
I lived in the NorthWest of England for 7 years, I have a brother who lives in London working for a big city of London company. I've seen what it's like across the country. I've literally walked from Glasgow to Edinburgh and then to Newcastle investigating. I've been to the Westminster treasury building and its corruption office. I've been to political conferences as press.
I know how people live in the UK, from those who live safely in a bubble able to feed themselves and afford heating to those who live in 3rd world underfunded ghetto areas living hand to mouth, unable to afford heating, and of course the growing homeless. At one point I was investigating into foodbanks, one of the most shocking things I found was that the majority of people using them had a job, but could not afford both rent and food. I know how politics and media work in this country. It is a joke. We have more and more people freezing to death in their own homes every year, and the next (behemothly bigger than the last) financial crisis looming.
With such a large GDP we should be able to look after every citizen, but as long as people have the "it's not affecting me" "As long as I'm getting mine" or "they are undeserving" attitude things will continue to deterioate. We need to throw everyone out onto the streets to grow their empathy so to speak.
I've always found that the places with the nicest kindest people are the ones who have been through immense suffering.
The UK has goose-stepped itself into misery through comfortable armchair nazis. People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both. This is just history repeating itself with different names and different places. The outcome will always be the same.
We will see. I'm not pretending it is all rosy but the problems you address have always been around. Being in or out of the EU is nothing to do with it.
I know I've danced around with lots of topics, but I'm just trying to give background to why the accelerated fall of the UK is a positive thing.
Although the genocide of the disabled is relatively new (less than 10 years old), as is the funneling of people onto the streets in such massive numbers.
I know it has nothing to do with the EU (except for the European convention on human rights which we will be free from),
but what I mean is the accelerated fall of the UK is tied to leaving the EU in my own opinion based on how much our economy is dependent on EU migrants among many other EU related things (including London's financial sector).
Many of the poorest regions in Western Europe are in the UK. Without EU funding (even being in the Irish countryside I only have to cycle 10 minutes to find my nearest EU funding sign) many of these underfunded and ignored places will be more prone and malleable towards insurrection, especially Northern Ireland if the Good Friday agreement is voided with a hard border; that would be considered an act of war by the English against the people of Northern and the Republic of Ireland.
I know I've danced around with lots of topics, but I'm just trying to give background to why the accelerated fall of the UK is a positive thing.
It's not a positive thing and I also don't think it will happen.
Although the genocide of the disabled is relatively new (less than 10 years old), as is the funneling of people onto the streets in such massive numbers.
I have not heard of any "genocide of the disabled". People living on the streets is not new either.
I'm sorry you are so anti-UK. I think this says more about your personal prejudices than anything else.
If I am showing any prejudice it is from anger and frustration. I found out yesterday that I am being denied access to healthcare unless I can prove I am not a foreigner. As well as giving the home office access to my medical records, I have to prove with a silly amount of documentation that I am not a foreigner. Passport, Birth Certificate, Medical card, Proof of Address, National Insurance Number etc is not enough. I don't have everything they want, and have until the 10th of April to prove I am not a foreigner or be charged for seeing the doctor, and for any future times I need to use the health service. Raging 😜
The genocide is not really mentioned or talked about. Genocides don't happen in places like the UK. And I only call it genocide because it fits the definition but of course Genocides don't happen in places like the UK.
We had almost zero homeless population before Thatchers reforms, and we never had homelessness like we have had in the last six years. Maybe you live somewhere away from the homeless problem. Many of my friends didn't beleive me about how bad it was in the NorthWest until they visited. Being back in the Irish countryside all these things are now out of sight.
I'm not really anti-UK. I just know that Northern Ireland is not considered or treated part of the UK (it was made clear during the discussions on brexit which ignored the impact a hard border would have on the good friday agreement), and I would prefer for everyone in the UK to have self-rule than Westminster rule.
I despise Westminster rule with their genocidal policies and their attacks on human rights. I want the UK to collapse solely because I believe that is the only way to free ourselves from Westinster rule, as they will not give up their gravy train.
Thanks I will check the video out. I certainly agree we have a lot of problems. Northern Ireland is not treated well for sure but also consider that we in the North East are totally forgotten. My hope is that things will improve but they could just get worse.
he has reason. globalization is a force that can't be stopped, considering that one main factor is the advancement of technology. you can close the borders, but you can't stop the flow of information, exchange of cultural identities, ideas etc. Uk decided to go out of EU, mostly because they wanted to make direct deal with USA (everything started before the US elections) but now that Trump is isolating the country, UK is all alone. and remember, EU will make Britain suffer. there are already division between the UK countries and there is nothing that can stop Scotland to have a 2nd referendum.
I actually feel this is a possibility. Allow Brexit to go through and then make things so awful that in the end the British people are begging to return to the EU. Then no European nation would ever dare dream of a life outside of the European Union again.
It seems cynical, but you don't spend hundreds of years building an empire and then let it fall without putting up a serious a fight, and we must admit to ourselves, that that's exactly what the EU is. One arm of a monolithic, global empire.
they have to set an example. Although, personally, I think creating a federal state of Europe is impossible. Ask anyone from a EU country and they will tell you that they are either greek or french. Ask someone from USA and they will say they are american, not new yorker or michiganer. lol Let's not forget the initial idea of EU was to maintain peace since both global wars started there.
I agree with everything up until your statement that the EU was built to maintain peace. If you truly believe its development was altruistic in design, I would advise you to look into a little-known aristocrat by the name of Count Coudenhove-Kalergi and his book "Pan Europa."
There is even a Coudenhove-Kalergi award which is presented to the person who does the best of job furthering the EU's agendas each year-- though they word it a little differently.
The EU is merely the first step in globalization. The American Union, African Union and Asian Union are the next goal, until all unions become one union and we have the so called "new world order" that the elites are always wanking over.
This might sound like a conspiracy theory. But, it's nothing that has not been openly stated time and time again by the world's bankers-- the true dominating force in this world.
I agree to disagree. Only time will tell. The thing is Uk was not even in Eurozone, it was not even in Schengen zone. As a member of EU it was one of the most spoiled countries. They had demands that all got fulfilled. As much as we want to think EU tries to shatter the cultural identities, it doesn't.
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We have a strong cultural identity which is more distinct from the rest of Europe - I think this comes in part from being an island nation.
Really? LOL. Nothing has happened to italian, french, spanish and other cultures.
I consider it optimistic. Accelerating destruction for creation. We can keep things going as they are with a slow decline killing more people (which we pretend not to know about) over these long drawn out years, or we can decline faster killing less people overall.
I lived in the NorthWest of England for 7 years, I have a brother who lives in London working for a big city of London company. I've seen what it's like across the country. I've literally walked from Glasgow to Edinburgh and then to Newcastle investigating. I've been to the Westminster treasury building and its corruption office. I've been to political conferences as press.
I know how people live in the UK, from those who live safely in a bubble able to feed themselves and afford heating to those who live in 3rd world underfunded ghetto areas living hand to mouth, unable to afford heating, and of course the growing homeless. At one point I was investigating into foodbanks, one of the most shocking things I found was that the majority of people using them had a job, but could not afford both rent and food. I know how politics and media work in this country. It is a joke. We have more and more people freezing to death in their own homes every year, and the next (behemothly bigger than the last) financial crisis looming.
With such a large GDP we should be able to look after every citizen, but as long as people have the "it's not affecting me" "As long as I'm getting mine" or "they are undeserving" attitude things will continue to deterioate. We need to throw everyone out onto the streets to grow their empathy so to speak.
I've always found that the places with the nicest kindest people are the ones who have been through immense suffering.
The UK has goose-stepped itself into misery through comfortable armchair nazis. People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both. This is just history repeating itself with different names and different places. The outcome will always be the same.
We will see. I'm not pretending it is all rosy but the problems you address have always been around. Being in or out of the EU is nothing to do with it.
I know I've danced around with lots of topics, but I'm just trying to give background to why the accelerated fall of the UK is a positive thing.
Although the genocide of the disabled is relatively new (less than 10 years old), as is the funneling of people onto the streets in such massive numbers.
I know it has nothing to do with the EU (except for the European convention on human rights which we will be free from),
but what I mean is the accelerated fall of the UK is tied to leaving the EU in my own opinion based on how much our economy is dependent on EU migrants among many other EU related things (including London's financial sector).
Many of the poorest regions in Western Europe are in the UK. Without EU funding (even being in the Irish countryside I only have to cycle 10 minutes to find my nearest EU funding sign) many of these underfunded and ignored places will be more prone and malleable towards insurrection, especially Northern Ireland if the Good Friday agreement is voided with a hard border; that would be considered an act of war by the English against the people of Northern and the Republic of Ireland.
It's not a positive thing and I also don't think it will happen.
I have not heard of any "genocide of the disabled". People living on the streets is not new either.
I'm sorry you are so anti-UK. I think this says more about your personal prejudices than anything else.
If I am showing any prejudice it is from anger and frustration. I found out yesterday that I am being denied access to healthcare unless I can prove I am not a foreigner. As well as giving the home office access to my medical records, I have to prove with a silly amount of documentation that I am not a foreigner. Passport, Birth Certificate, Medical card, Proof of Address, National Insurance Number etc is not enough. I don't have everything they want, and have until the 10th of April to prove I am not a foreigner or be charged for seeing the doctor, and for any future times I need to use the health service. Raging 😜
That is crazy and your anger is understandable - there is certainly a negative side to all of this. Hope you get it sorted.
Here is some guy talking about the Disabled Genocide.
Here is a BBC article
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37899305
The genocide is not really mentioned or talked about. Genocides don't happen in places like the UK. And I only call it genocide because it fits the definition but of course Genocides don't happen in places like the UK.
We had almost zero homeless population before Thatchers reforms, and we never had homelessness like we have had in the last six years. Maybe you live somewhere away from the homeless problem. Many of my friends didn't beleive me about how bad it was in the NorthWest until they visited. Being back in the Irish countryside all these things are now out of sight.
I'm not really anti-UK. I just know that Northern Ireland is not considered or treated part of the UK (it was made clear during the discussions on brexit which ignored the impact a hard border would have on the good friday agreement), and I would prefer for everyone in the UK to have self-rule than Westminster rule.
I despise Westminster rule with their genocidal policies and their attacks on human rights. I want the UK to collapse solely because I believe that is the only way to free ourselves from Westinster rule, as they will not give up their gravy train.
Thanks I will check the video out. I certainly agree we have a lot of problems. Northern Ireland is not treated well for sure but also consider that we in the North East are totally forgotten. My hope is that things will improve but they could just get worse.
he has reason. globalization is a force that can't be stopped, considering that one main factor is the advancement of technology. you can close the borders, but you can't stop the flow of information, exchange of cultural identities, ideas etc. Uk decided to go out of EU, mostly because they wanted to make direct deal with USA (everything started before the US elections) but now that Trump is isolating the country, UK is all alone. and remember, EU will make Britain suffer. there are already division between the UK countries and there is nothing that can stop Scotland to have a 2nd referendum.
I actually feel this is a possibility. Allow Brexit to go through and then make things so awful that in the end the British people are begging to return to the EU. Then no European nation would ever dare dream of a life outside of the European Union again.
It seems cynical, but you don't spend hundreds of years building an empire and then let it fall without putting up a serious a fight, and we must admit to ourselves, that that's exactly what the EU is. One arm of a monolithic, global empire.
they have to set an example. Although, personally, I think creating a federal state of Europe is impossible. Ask anyone from a EU country and they will tell you that they are either greek or french. Ask someone from USA and they will say they are american, not new yorker or michiganer. lol Let's not forget the initial idea of EU was to maintain peace since both global wars started there.
I agree with everything up until your statement that the EU was built to maintain peace. If you truly believe its development was altruistic in design, I would advise you to look into a little-known aristocrat by the name of Count Coudenhove-Kalergi and his book "Pan Europa."
There is even a Coudenhove-Kalergi award which is presented to the person who does the best of job furthering the EU's agendas each year-- though they word it a little differently.
The EU is merely the first step in globalization. The American Union, African Union and Asian Union are the next goal, until all unions become one union and we have the so called "new world order" that the elites are always wanking over.
This might sound like a conspiracy theory. But, it's nothing that has not been openly stated time and time again by the world's bankers-- the true dominating force in this world.
Well we will have to disagree.
I agree to disagree. Only time will tell. The thing is Uk was not even in Eurozone, it was not even in Schengen zone. As a member of EU it was one of the most spoiled countries. They had demands that all got fulfilled. As much as we want to think EU tries to shatter the cultural identities, it doesn't.
Edit:
Really? LOL. Nothing has happened to italian, french, spanish and other cultures.
Yes.