The Russians Did It!

in #politics7 years ago (edited)

First, it was Russia hacked the election. Then it was Russia hacked the election but “not in the traditional sense.” Then it was Russia interfered with the election. When that didn’t work, it was Russia influenced the election. That lost steam as well, so it was changed to Russia meddled with the election. Of course, there’s no solid evidence so now they resorted to blaming RT for buying Facebook ads and doing journalism—which is what RT’s job is, by the way.

Lost a vote? Stubbed your toe? Well, it must be the Russians! This Russia Gate/ Russia issue just won’t die! In fact it’s reaching the point of madness. It’s time we put it to rest in this episode.

UPDATE: Here's a link on my website of the Russia hack report from the DIN.

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TPTB (deep state) gotta have a boogieman to keep people scared..

If not Russia, then Iran.
If not Iran, then North Korea.
or ISIS, or ISIL or Al Queda or the Talaban or Illegal Immigrants or volcanos....

A scared populous is a compliant populous.

The question to ask is: if Russia hacked the elections to win Donald Trump?

And the answer is clearly not. Trump won because he knew how and where to be to get the vote. Remember that mostly Hillary got more voting but the distribution of the vote gave Trump a win.

The war of power that the different groups that control the United States have is what they are living. War for America's control. War to control the people of States and their fates. Like the movie The Godfather.

Another inquisitive mind. Following you. Follow for follow, yeah?

Now that is answered I think we need to focus more on what are these people trying to cover up or distract us from using this false Russia narrative. I'm very suspicious about this. It stinks to high heavens! I'm also very paranoid as to what the media is showing us. Can't shake the thought of Project Mocking Bird in my head.

Politicians don't care about anything but their own interests (so is everybody else in a democracy btw). They care only about seizing power and staying in power.

God damn! I must, should, ought to make another podcast to discuss this undeniable proof of Russian hacking! I must humbly correct my position in this debate. Oh God!

Now please don't shoot that messenger, but could some one authenticate that document?.
it must have a data dot or something. and a date code on the print font (it could be Cyrillic) please.
We need also need proof of life for that messenger, just in case the photo is fake
photo shopped or something. ;-)

How can you doubt "the evidence"?
You must be working for the Kremlin.
/sarcasm

The "evidence" is fine, I just think that face looks a bit suspect, I'm thinking the ruskies face warped it or something? Can't trust 'em you know ;-)

I'm still asking the basic question "WHY?"
If(?) the russians did, what was the purpose?
What did the russians hope to gain?
Are the russians planning an invasion or something?
Did they want to support someone to get better deals for themselves?
Was it to remove support from someone who is opposition to russia?

So many questions that seem not to be being asked & answered by MSM.

or (as I suspect)

is it nothing to do with Russia, but all an after thought by main stream media & ??? to create excuses and a mass division within the US population?

Why would 'they' (???) want that??.

Who is really running this show?

rabbit hole starts >>>>>>>

Without military conflict, the US economy will collapse.

I went down that rabbit hole. Here are my thoughts:

  1. As to WHY: the US needs an aggressive Russia to justify the existence of NATO. Without NATO there will be no billions of dollars worth of military spending. Also, the evil Russia narrative helps create an excuse as to why Clinton lost. Everything could be blamed on Russia... even Pikachu bringing down the power grid. That is a very convenient escape goat to have. And an easy one judging by Putin's background and cold war history.
    We also need to note that the mainstream media is losing against the alt-media and RT. There are billions of dollars involved in media. I don't think that the MSM will not fight for those billions.

  2. US and Western politics depend on victimhood in order to have political power. Being the victim will justify any action because the action is done out of "retaliation". There are also a lot of people who would like for there to be chaos, they profit from it.

  3. If arguendo that Russia did in fact hacked the US election... I would think that they want to be the most powerful country in the world which is absurd because you not only have China but also Russia's (at least Putin's stance) view of the world is that of balance of power--in that Russia is the opposing force against the US. Putin is very open about this world view a simple YouTube search would reveal this. But of course, the mainstream only knows Putin and Russia = Evil and this narrative must be kept alive because there are people that depend on this narrative.

  4. Invasion would be highly unlikely considering that the US has a very good buffer the Atlantic and the Pacific. If Russia wants to invade the US, the question there is how and what resources are they after? Definitely not oil. It will be an uphill battle for Russia to invade US. Unless their ships and submarine go undetected. There will also be US allies in Europe that Russia would have to deal with and of course Japan and South Korea on the other side to think about. So it's highly likely that this is not the case.

  5. Could it be maybe Russia is after the dollar? Since 97% of the dollar is in digital form? If so, why didn't they hack banks or the Federal Reserves directly? Why hack the election?
    I don't think this is the case either as China, Russia, and India (you can add Brazil there to some extent) are trying to get away from the petrodollar.

  6. With this I conclude that it's highly unlikely that Russia would hack the US election. Russia's military I would argue is not strong enough to stand toe to toe with the US. China+Russia+India maybe, but that is unlikely because we would see US+Japan+EU.

There's definitely something else going on beneath the surface that we see. I would say that Operation Mocking Bird is still in effect. I would not be surprised if the US would willfully hoodwink the population for whatever agenda they have as we saw in Project MK Ultra and in this 1967 CIA dispatch: https://thelastheretik.com/heresy/2017/10/8/cia-dispatch-weaponizing-the-label-conspiracy-theorists

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I think the point is that Putin might have played in favor of Trump. That means some kind of influence, probably not too big. But Trump didn't win by a large difference anyway...

True, but as Putin said (I'm paraphrasing), "a US president who want to improve relationships with Russia, who wouldn't want that?" But I don't think that is justification enough for hacking. We know that Russia practices realpolitik.
Let's also remember that President Duterte of the Philippines also favored Trump. I think also China (but couldn't be sure about China).