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RE: Culture and Race are not the same thing: Could it be culture that is the cause for elevated police encounter fatalities rather than race? Is BLM aiming for the wrong causation?

in #racism8 years ago (edited)

They are trained to watch for suspicious behavior.

And in other countries cops are trained to see the person that needs help.

Strangely in those other countries both killings of cops and killings by cops is much lower. And I won't even mention the (until recently) famously gunless "Bobbies".

This is culture too - police culture.

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Yes, but that doesn't explain the increase in black percentages here. That does explain the violence of police against everyone, but that isn't what Black Lives Matter is trying to bring attention to. So what is your point?

That factor would not explain the fact blacks are being killed by cops at a proportionally higher percentage rate (though whites still are killed more by them in total). So what you just said would not explain the higher percentage at all.

It seems more like someone trying to defend the norm without even truly reading, pausing, and thinking.

As you may reread my post you will see that I quoted the training. I did not quote any racial differences, because my post was not about that, but a different sort of culture.

But if you want, training and corps culture also influences the racial difference.
White man on the wheel of the car?
Make a friendly face and talk to him.
Black male?
Gun out and shout "get out of the car!"

Yep, and how often have those cops had to deal with neighborhoods where people say fuck the police, kill cops, and that drive by shootings happen occasionally?

I did say they were twitchy.

That again is a symptom. It is still wrong, it is not a cause.

There are SOME racist cops. I've encountered them. Yet I've also encountered a lot that were not at all racist.

So could this be also a case of the media over hyping the racist incidents so much that it makes us perceive cops overall as racist simply due to that being all the news bothers to put a lot of emphasis on?

That is indeed a possibility as black cops apparently act very similar when it comes to black deaths as well.

I am not ANYWHERE trying to justify the actions of the cops. I am trying to look at what may have lead to this. I do think there is something going on other than race, as depending upon where you live in the country these things don't happen even if you are black. It seems to cluster.

In some parts of our country having long hair and looking like you smoke marijuana is likely to get you harassed by the cops a lot more than your skin color. :) I do have a lot of friends that have been hit by this from where I grew up.