Hive has several unique features going for it.
Perhaps its most powerful feature is that anyone with an internet connection can "earn Hive with their brain", with no need for capital outlay.
And that is only possible because of blogging rewards.
Thanks to blogging rewards a poor farmer from Kenia such as @juliasjohn can get a few cents, a sum which is significant for him. Hive is the only platform I know that keeps the original blockchain promise of banking the unbanked and helping them financially.
Are there risks of abuse? Of course there are, there always were. Is there a risk to crash and die in a horrible car accident when taking your car in the morning ? Of course there is! But the solution is not to ban cars! Nor is it to abolish blogging rewards!
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I was curious if you were still around. Stick around John, the worst that can happen is that you'll learn new stuff.
Thank you very much my friend for encouraging me I'm happy with you.
I might be bonehead but the car analogy doesnt really fit. And I'm gonna go a bit further and say that since you used that for an analogy you obviously are not looking at it objectively from the "big picture"because you took immeadiate offense to even consider the idea.
He's not suggesting that people shouldnt get rewarded. If a user has Hive and likes the post I'm pretty sure you can and should still reward them for it.
His idea simply makes the creator actually earn the reward and the consumer of the content actually consume it. No where in @r0nd0n post did I read "all posts are free for everyone".
Why not let the creator put up a paywall for their content if they wish? That is essentially what he is saying.
It's actually a pretty simple concept that can weed out not just AI posts but also shit posts and vote farmers.
If you look at it objectively then it's obviously a good thing for the entire Hive ecosystem.
Why doesn't the car analogy fit?
Never mind.
My real point is that "the big picture" r0nd0n is looking at is
Hive is about COMMUNITY. The community has a BUDGET and members of the community with POWER decide how to allocate that BUDGET on the basis of the CREATIVITY of the users.
This mechanism is the CORE, the MEANING, the PURPOSE of HIVE.
You can be dirt poor but come here and write something that catches the attention of those with Hive Power and they can decide to share with you part of the COMMON budget. Yes, it's somewhat socialist if you will, except that the community of HP holders does not also cumulate the "monopoly on violence" that the state has.
R0nd0n comes and says: "AI will allow bad actors to come and profit from the community budget, so we should DESTROY what makes HIVE ... HIVE !"
The mechanism is the greatest thing about Hive but it is also the worst thing at the same time.
Yes someone who is dirt poor can join and make a few bucks. But thats all they ever will do. They will never ascend to the top ranks without the approval of those above them. The mechanism keeps those at the top firmly in place like a digital royal ruling class over looking the rest of the peasants for their entertainment. I have seen, as I am sure you have as well, this digital royal ruling class destroy many of the peasants over the years. Ones who dared to speak their own real opinions on something. They have just as much right to state an opinion or to make some money for their content as someone who has thousands of HP in their wallet. But their ability to create an income is destroyed because of their opinion.
I would argue that it is happening now without AI. People tailor there content & posts to appeal to the whales and others with lots of HP to just get the big upvotes. They are essentially self censoring in order to this. It's essentially the same as YouTubers creating videos that will appeal to Googles advertisers.
Is their an example you can show me of a dirt poor content creator that has risen to the tops of the ranks yet? Is their someone who has as much HP as the OG users such as guiltyparties or blocktrades? Someone that has joined and climbed the wealth ladder by simply producing creative compelling content that appeals to all people. Or is there only certain people who have gotten to a somewhat wealthy & healthy place by creating content and posts that appealed to a certain small group of people who have some wealth?
Hive is not growing and has been stagnant for while. It appeals to some people because of the mechanism. But once they join and see that it doesnt allow for their personal growth they leave or are ran out by the ruling class.
If we want to save Hive it must change. If it doesnt it will never grow. Without growth it is a failure. Pure and simple. These things must be discussed and solved for it to grow. And the fact that only a select few people are willing to talk openly about these things are a testament to the fear of being on royal ruling classes virtual shit list and getting down voted. Hell just the fact that it hasnt been approached yet is a huge problem.
People will move on to the next chain that will take it's place. Why? Because Web3 is about the people and not any particular crypto currency. People want and seek Freedom. They do not seek a solidified social classification by catering to the upper class.
They wish to survive & profit as much as they yearn to do. And every one has the right to do that. Not just the ones who are already there.
Do you think moving blogging rewards to the second layer won't work? If blogging is valuable, wouldn't that value translate well to there as well?
The central feature of Hive is the "common budget". In the time of steem 75% of the production went to blogging. Now with DHF only 65% go to blogging. This proportion can evolve. Perhaps in the end only 10% will go to content creation - especially if the price of Hive reaches 300$ 😄 But this evolution should be consensual and gradual, and made with a focus on keeping the community strong and united
That really didn't answer the question. I'm trying to assess the value, and if there is some to be found, it shouldn't matter where it's posted.
I try to reformulate: I do not want to focus too much on what the 2nd layers are or want to be, I want there to be many but I'm not too concerned about them. I focus on Hive.
Its uniqueness comes in no small part from it being a "proof of brain" system: anyone with an internet connection and a reasonable device can earn a living (hopefully) with the "sweat of one's brow".
I deem the preservation of that feature as one of the most important goals, if not the most important.
How do you reward penniless people coming to Hive if there are no blogging rewards ?
If you crack that nut, then ok.
Theoretically you could have rewards distributed to the 2nd layers (to buy their token with Hive and thus offer a floor) and then some of the 2nd layers would focus on blogging by humans (rather than AI) more effectively than you can do it at Hive scale ...
So yes, theoretically it might work at some point.
Incredibly well said and shares my opinion on the matter exactly!