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RE: For those of you who do not understand what the financial incentives are for flagging....

in #rewardpoolrape7 years ago (edited)

The posts on the front page are getting the most votes and rshares... regardless of linear or not. I get the idea that it makes self voting less profitable, but if I look at the accounts getting the most votes right now... The idea of them getting more of the reward pool is a turn off to me.

I barely understand it though. I wish I was clearer on the possible outcomes. I sure hated the non-linear reward curve when we had it.

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I get the same concern about how the rewards would look but I think that's mostly due to the initial distribution.

No matter what they would look like, under the current system 100% self upvote is the best "strategy" and everyone who's not engaging in it is doing it at their own expanse and to the profit of the abusers.

I'm not sure exactly what this entails but what if everyone end up voting for themselves 10 times a day or simply self voting getting out of hand? Is this what the current system will lead too and what would prevent this? I don't know.

Is it something someone could do a fake comparison? I am thinking no, because we can't simulate who would stop self-voting?

Ha! That conversation and thinking is very enlightening to me. It's really making me think about the subject in ways I hadn't before.

Under n^2 those who hold the most SP under 1 account are the one who are advantaged as opposed to the current system where anyone engaging in 100% self-upvoting are the one advantaged.

I think that's pretty much what it comes down to. At the same time I'm not totally satisfied with my analysis. I feel like there's still something I might be missing but I'm not sure.

Do you think current set-up of the trending and hot lists is correct? Should trending relate to the value of upvotes or the number of upvotes? For example, one post may have 4 upvotes worth 400 SBD and another post with 50 upvotes worth 5 SBD. The post with the 4 initial big upvotes will ultimately end up with more upvotes but only because of the exposure gained on the trending page. A person can upvote with bots and get on the trending list (I did this several weeks back). Is this really trending? Curation trails can also artificially boost the number of upvotes, even a higher number of upvotes may not be an indication of what is actually trending. How about we don't have a trending list at all? We could have a system of categories customized to our preferences. I think there are several ways to go but I think the current system definitely needs improving.

I also think it is strange that there is an option to upvote a post without needing to even open it. I always check to see if the content is worth upvoting rather than rely on just the title.

There's no way to prevent upvote on post people haven't read.

As for the trending page, I think there can be many type of algorithms and many trending page. Communities will also help in that regard.

Obviously the number of votes can easily be gamed so I don't think number of votes are going to be prevalent in many trending algorithm though they might still have their place sometimes.

What ive always wanted was a trending page for different activities , not just a big pile of mashups.

Vids, sounds, zaps, especially zaps should have their own tab they go to.

This would really help in sorting things out, zappl especially would finally be able tl take of.

More than trending page, let there be a separate switch for each major sevices, just like tags, but, i dont know. . . . . . More interactive .