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Right now I make roughly 5-7$ a day with Genesis depending on the cryptocurrency prices. I will be completely green(positive) in about November. However, I love their affiliate program as it helps me whenever someone else joins or upgrades. Additionally, I upgrade frequently with profits from Genesis and from my Trading. Genesis is definitely not like the other scam sites, you can and will make money without affiliates. Obviously it takes longer to get green using this method. It's hard for me to argue with their track record. They are paying me out every day and have been doing this with over 500,000 other customers for over 3 years now. Pretty sound investment unless, you have the luxury of running your own mining farm with little electrical overhead cost.