An introduction post that made over $4000 with 431 (!) upvotes, 110 positive comments and now a reputation score of 7. Introduction post: https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@moonflower/a-new-life-in-maui
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I would like to point out that blackmail is a criminal offense, regardless of what your intentions were here...
since theyre probably in different states, this would be federal. And fed blackmail i think is only threatening to reveal a crime... agree tho inappropriate.
Good grief. The dramatic twist.
Wow, its funny to see that you sir have tried to blackmail that innocent girl.
do you have proof, that she didn't join Steemit?
but anyway, that you are trying to blackmail someone , and leaving it forever on the block chain seems to be the dumbest thing i have seen on Steemit !!
I think you are the perpetrator here !!! in the countries i life, blackmail is a felony!
so please dont try this again, i am pretty sure that steemit has you ip and you might be reported to authorities...
anyway, i wrote something about reputation
https://steemit.com/steemit/@knozaki2015/steemit-has-introduced-a-new-reputation-score-what-is-it-and-how-can-you-boost-up-your-score
actually, blackmailing people makes you a scammer
you dont have actual proof about that girl not writing that herself on Steemit.
so present real proof, and i will vote you up!
i am just saying, that trying to blackmail someone, because you think that person cheated, is sad.
Maybe that person has already reported you to the authorities and the police will come to pick you up.
anyway, i am trying my best to write good articles and give constructive feedback.
i dont want to judge you, but blackmail is something which is not on my tolerate list, as this is not a trivial offense, its serious !
so maybe you and me just have different views in life, which i accept, but lets end this discussion here and we leave each other alone!
That awkward feeling when the comment has gathered more likes $, than a post :D
Haha... blackmailing vs scammer.
and the plot thickens!
Bad form man...
"Give me money and I will not say anything more about it" is called extortion and really is bad form.
And this is the guy going after me as well. Bye.
Right - commit crimes in private please - dumbass.
Did you just call yourself a scammer?
He has been attacking me for days - yet I spent 30k and bought thousands of users here today alone.
Hypocrite.
The extortion messages show that he contacted the intropost scammer before the payout. If his motive was to stop a scammer, he could easily have prevented the payout by reporting the scammer on #steemitabuse on Slack.
Blackmailing is on the same level as scamming.
If she paid you $ 500,00 then you haven't said anything?
It depends, for what reason did you ask $ 500,00?
It's pretty shitty that you are just telling us now after your blackmail attempt failed.
the blockchain
Wow, I guess it's inevitable that some scammers will slip through the cracks. Not much grinds my gears cause I know it's the Internet, but this particular behavior is so annoying.
Guess it's time to start offering bounties for Steemians who expose these scams to try and stop any from getting paid out.
I upvoted You
I can't believe you knew about this 2 weeks ago and now you're posting, after being exposed.
That's weak dude, really weak.
Cg
Man this is seriuosly a big problem in steemit. Thanks for exposing them peoples as they not getting a single up-vote from me.
Introduceyourself actually no 1 will get an up-vote from me as of now.
I f*cking made my photo in a mountain of waste in recycle center and they just buy them for $5 and make $4000 return...
This just got me f*ucking angry. I dont want to see how beautiful you or your life is i like all the good and bad sides and shapes... BULLSHIT
EDIT. BLACKMAIL?? WTFFFFF
And many more just like it!
I think fivverrs don;t know why the y do that. but yeah..so fed up with these people....
Wow, wonderful drama, a scammer and a blackmailer. Who will win?
I didn't say bad guy. But it does look like you tried to blackmail someone. If I thought you were a bad guy I would have flagged the post, but you were just trying to clean up the shit. Wrong way in my opinion, but effective. I just sitting here with my popcorn.
he isn't trying to clean up the shit, just trying to make money by accusing other people after after a failed attempt at blackmailing them.
So yeah, he's a bad guy...
I really don't know if she is really who she says she is or not. To me if someone is willing so sell thier identity, how do you prove who they are.
Blackmail is not unlawful. We are on the internet which is like being out on international waters. We do not fall under any statutory jurisdiction other than the Steemit terms and conditions. Telling the truth is never evil. It can be unsavory and as a community we can ostracize it but we may not actively harm it. The threat of being exposed is what keeps people behaving out here. No one has positive rights by default. they must be agreed to by all affected parties. I personally believe a better way to profit from finding a scam is to make a post about it and expose it. maybe sell the story to a whale so that it gets better exposure because why should the scammer have payed the ransom? you've already acted in bad faith so who's to say you'll keep your word or maybe ask for more money again and again. If you sold the story to someone else after, they would never know it. You might split some of the ransom to get your customer to co-operate with covering the tracks and pretend they also found the scam on their own.
Also, I am not seeing the scam, what's wrong with hiring a model? did moonflower specifically claim that the pic was her? how do we know the model doesn't also love steem? when a perfume or fashion model represents a product, Is that also wrong? the creators might be nothing like the models and the models might not even like the product. Is that truly a scam?
It is in many countries especially those with a common law tradition.
People are prosecuted for online crimes all the time.
http://www.interpol.int/Crime-areas/Cybercrime/Cybercrime
Yes you do, indeed the fact that it's happening on the internet allows people to 'jurisdiction shop' as is commonly done with defamation, so posting on the internet is worse since you may find yourself in a legal jurisdiction less favorable than your own.
http://www.commonlawreview.cz/on-selecting-jurisdiction-in-internet-defamation-cases
https://cyber.law.harvard.edu/property99/domain/Betsy.html
would you elaborate on your last point there for me? I could see it holding water if they are both for instance American citizens or citizens or countries that have relevant agreements like England or something. But wouldn't that have to be proven? Am I wrong to that you can't assume jurisdiction online?
The plaintiff generally gets to choose jurisdiction online. They only have to come up with a justification for any of the parties involved, even the owners of the website, which the judge in that country will accept, and they can settle it in that court. This is an extremely common practice in online cases which favors the accuser over the accused.
In this case the options would likely be the country @moonflower resides in, the country @r4fken resides in, or the countries the operators of SteemIt.com reside in.
necessarily or probably? As I understand it, unless you differ arbitration beforehand with other contracts such as citizenship, the accused has to consent first.
Rutroh!
To be honest, there are truckloads of such bullshit introductions on Steemit.
They all share the same, default structure: pretty/cute girl telling about the paradise she is living in, in her country, showing photos of nice beach or countryside and some local food etc.
As majority of whales are males, so they jump on such posts like flies to a turd.