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RE: Science Under Attack

in #science7 years ago

I did it also for universities in Australia, Japan and USA.

I did 4 masters. No Phd's

I mean, how does Science suffer if an undergraduate earns a fake degree? The real world suffers, and the reputation of the discipline suffers—but the science itself couldn't care less about an ignorant undergrad.

it does. because if I am doing it, its happening in all levels. I know some people that do PhDs actually for a very good pay. A PhD is nothing really. Just needs persistence. Anyone can get a PhD, especially in social 'sciences'

"Human behavior changes depending on what we ate last night, if we got laid and what magazine we read in the waiting room before the experiment."
Which hard science made this discovery? Was it biology, chemistry, or physics?

Use google. no need to troll. I assume you should be familiar with the basics..you know, having written a book and all. ..

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Well your first two answers prove your point, and it's sad.

About the third one, I'm not trolling, that's your neck of the woods! It just seemed odd to me that you'd try and discredit the social sciences based on research done by the social sciences (e.g. daniel kahneman etc.)

Well the first two answers prove your point, and it's sad.

I was doing it for money. The thousands in my pockets did not seem sad.

About the third one, I'm not trolling, that's your neck of the woods! It just seemed odd to me that you'd try and discredit the social sciences based on research done by the social sciences (e.g. daniel kahneman etc.)

I can discredit social sciences as "sciences". They are simply descriptive fields. NOT scientific. And guess what. I just did with plenty of examples why they cannot be scientific. Care to upgrade your counter-arguments and put that philosophy degree to (any) use?

Well it seems like you vacillate between the 'soft' point that these disciplines simply shouldn't use the moniker 'science', and the 'harder' point that these disciplines shouldn't be funded period. If you're arguing for the latter point, then, since I already mentioned (the Nobel prize winning psychologist) Daniel Kahneman, you could maybe try and explain to me why you think his discoveries are unimportant and why we shouldn't care about them.

Well it seems like you vacillate between the 'soft' point that these disciplines simply shouldn't use the moniker 'science', and the 'harder' point that these disciplines shouldn't be funded period.

I don't care if they do. I am just pointing the flaw out.

If you're arguing for the latter point, then, since I already mentioned (the Nobel prize winning psychologist) Daniel Kahneman, you could maybe try and explain to me why you think his discoveries are unimportant and why we shouldn't care about them.

titles and contexts don't mean shit. You are appealing to authority to win an argument. It's sad. Learn to argue based on my arguments no based on "Look but but this guy got a Nobel, he is important!"

But hey, I guess you have to learn a bit about the Nobel charade as well. You seriously need to do some reading man.

Start with this. If you want to continue the argument before you google, you won't like my next link.

https://heatst.com/world/bob-dylans-nobel-prize-is-a-joke-even-he-thinks-so/

I wasn't making the argument you're accusing me of! Yeah I mentioned his Nobel prize (in parentheses) but that was beside the point. I actually read the guy's research and it's very instructive, and in fact I think you'd love it! You could try reading his book Thinking fast and slow if you got the time and appetite. I don't care shit for nobel prizes etc. tbh.

You are not making any argument why it is science.

Thinking fast and slow

Read it. equivalent of self-help of Tony Robbins but with pedantic explanations of basic anthropological principles. Everything psychology has, it got from anthropology.

I can't make any argument why it's science without going into the specifics, nor do I think have you made an argument, because again one needs to go into the specifics. You have made declarations. I haven't seen any arguments.

You and I must've read different books! I admit the book isn't written in the same dry academic style as his research, but comparing him to Tony Robbins?!! The article I linked to doesn't read like self-help to me.

And by 'anthropology', you mean those guys who say anything is valid within the context of every specific society? So if one society believes the earth is flat, they're right, and if another disagrees, they're also right—you mean those guys?

I only mentioned him in the first place cos you were basically quoting research he was involved in (judges being influenced in their verdicts according to the time they had lunch etc.) : http://www.pnas.org/content/108/17/6889.full

quoting his research doesn't make the field scientific. I only put these links because you asked.

you are hurting yourself man. do follow up