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RE: Scientific Consensus: This phrase should make you cringe. At least if you understand science.

in #science8 years ago

Amen - evolution bring labeled a"fact" by scientific consensus is of course the perf example of the deception perpetuated by the scientific comm. So many holes and weaknesses in it anyone who has done enuff objective study on the topic will never draw the conclusion of it being s fact - and that's the actual fact.

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I tend to believe in evolution, though I don't think that must preclude some creation event.

I tend to be a deist. This means I believe there is likely some kind of a creator, but that I don't believe any of the revealed religions, prophecies, etc. I just look around me at nature and use reason.

It also does not tell me what that creator was/is/etc. It is also NOT at odds with science.

I don't believe any of the particular creation stories from various religions.

Though I am totally okay if YOU do.

Cool, we can agree to disagree. I just see things like dna and the utter complexity of the various bodily systems which all have to work in harmony with one another and a lack of a creator just doesn't add up to me. The various "conclusive proofs" found all have answers also.

I didn't say there was no creator. We've seen plenty evidence of evolution at work even at our time. We've even put it to work ourselves in domesticating animals. It is real.

Yet that doesn't mean there is no creator. The problem is that this again is another false dichotomy. People get stuck on either creationism or evolution when there are actually more than two choices. They can both exist.

I said I was a deist. That does not mean I don't believe in a creator. It simply means I don't believe in stories written down in books by humans.

What you stated as evidence does not make what is written in books true either.

I don't believe in revelation and prophecy. I simply observe reality, including the things you just described and use reason. The stories written in books may have been pretty convincing to primitive man, but so many of those stories are pretty silly too and some are not plausible.

So I believe there could have been some creation/catalsyst/simulation whatever you want to call it. Yet we see evidence of evolution all the time and we've even harnessed it and made it work for us. Another example is corn. It never existed until mankind went through generations of careful breeding until we had corn with the modern day traits.

So the existence of a creator and evolution are not mutually exclusive.

Micro-evolution does exist, adaptation within a species, however the evidence of millions of species arising from a speck of the simplest is simply not there from all I have studied, nothing close to conclusive on any level, this is what upsets me with the scientific community there simply is no honesty when it comes to this issue (and others as you alluded to in your post).

As far as whether the faith that I believe in christianity I do believe there is very good evidence for it being true, 2 very good books giving thus are The Case For Christ by Lee Strobel and Cold Case Christianity by J. Warner Wallace if u haven't read them and care to pursue further.