I do not think it is immoral, it just should not be a part of the system. If you give me 10 $200 upvotes I have 0 incentive to not give them to myself. THen it truly becomes the pyramid scheme a lot of people make it up to be. I think self voting should be forbidden by the new hardfork as the truth is CONTENT DOES NOT MATTER anymore.
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I think we should set limits based on your steem power. for example if you have up to 10k steem power you can no longer up-vote your own comments or posts or atleast put a daily limit. If we remove up-voting yourself completely then the ones who would get hurt would be the minnows and dolphins. Not the whales.
So a whale makes 100 accounts and let them autovote in the circle.
Bonus: He not only upvotes himself but also gets curation, yeah!
Yes but newly made accounts can give you like what? 1 cent per up-vote 100 accs up-voting themselves will make like a dollar? so i don't get your point? I was talking about whales that abuse their up-votes by up-voting their comments without limits. That's why i said why not set limits based on your steem power? the more you have the less you can up-vote yourself.
He can delegate all his steem power amongst the 100 accounts so it would be the same :)
Oh... well i feel like a dumb-ass now... I guess i should read more about it before talking.
We live and learn...
Yes indeed.
Dang. It would be good to be a whale.
Hmmm, well intentioned perhaps, but not sure practical. Let's get out the pitchforks and go after the folks at the top of the heap. But the folks at the top of the heap built the heap, so ultimately not in anyone's interested to knock the heap down.
You think just for comments, or your own posts as well?
What is the difference?
Well, maybe the network doesn't differentiate itself much, but using your SP to gain more visibility on a blog post on the network seems more valid to me than up voting every comment you make.
Sounds fair, at the same time I can still post 10 worthless coppied memes and upvote myself 10 times so I get all the money myself.
Yeah that is true and a lot of people are involve in this business. Funny businesses on steemit these days.
"THen it truly becomes the pyramid scheme a lot of people make it up to be"
No, the opposite is true. I was going to write a post about it.
If you have to put money in (by paying for Steem Power), but this money can only go to those already here (because you have to grow your user base before you really start earning money) you end up with a hierarchy similar to that of a pyramid scheme.
One of things stopping it being a pyramid scheme is that you can upvote yourself if you want to - you have some say where the money goes.
Now, it may be argued that money does go to 'lower value' members, which is true, but the majority goes to those who have been here longer, and the more the invested the more successful they are likely to be.
I agree with this comment the most. If this function is taken away in the next HF then it is not a moral issue anymore. And when the greedy ones find the next loophole, we will deal with it then. Steemit is still in beta stage and it is awesome already. It will take time to evolve. Look at the difference between Facebook 1.0 compared to now.