RE: it doesn't feel quite nice

[savvyplayer]

See my first response to you at https://peakd.com/@brittandjosie/re-ecency-qsf7u0.

1. If I can't convince everyone that the post is #nsfw, it still stands as #nsfw for me. The fact that @stayten was able to post such things which some people would not like also means that I am also free to post things that some people would not like or agree upon.
2. The fact that you said that "maybe you shouldn’t open the blog while at work" is like telling me that I "should not open #Ecency at work because the post might show up on my feed again and be seen by other people".
3. I tagged the Ecency team for a bug report, not because I want the post censored in any way. It's good that you acknowledge that the Ecency team should fix the problem of muted accounts showing up on "Promoted" feed for the users who muted such authors.

I will wait for your clarifications for my previous comment and this one.

@chrisrice @atma.love

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[chrisrice]

The fact that @stayten was able to post such things which some people would not like also means that I am also free to post things that some people would not like or agree upon.

Ummm, well yeah. That's what #FreeSpeech is, the ability to say things that other people don't like.

The fact that you said that "maybe you shouldn’t open the blog while at work" is like telling me that I "should not open #Ecency at work because the post might show up on my feed again and be seen by other people".

It's also like saying not to open Facebook at work, which most employers don't want their employees to do.

But on a real note, I don't think anyone would get in trouble for viewing @stayten's post at work, it's not nudity or violence, it's not even controversial, just an unusual image.

• Unusual != #NSFW

As for #3, I think you did a good job, and again, these are all just discussions, nothing wrong going on here . . but what is your criteria for #NSFW? @savvyplayer

1. My understanding is that nudity & violence constitutes #NSFW.
2. & I think content that "other people don't like" is not appropriate to be called #NSFW, since for one, it's a subjective criteria, and 2, #FreeSpeech is about being able to say what people don't want to hear.

[savvyplayer]

1. I definitely agree with what is on wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_safe_for_work regarding #nsfw.
2. I did not say that just because something is unusual, it is NSFW.
3. There are also certain text (not just the images) on the original author's post that are #nsfw (at least for me), though I don't want to quote them directly for obvious reasons.
4. Objective criteria such as nudity and graphic violence are definitely NSFW, but NSFW content is not limited to those two.
5. I recommended the post be tagged as #nsfw not just because I don't agree or like it, but because it would be offensive for at least some people like me.
6. My criteria for NSFW is any sensitive content I would not like anybody else to know I am looking at, not only at the workplace (as the word 'W' in NSFW says) but at places where there are kids (who are much younger than me).
7. I know that it is harder to understand that nudity or violence which is just placed in text is also #nsfw.

[chrisrice]

The Wikipedia link you sent uses subjective criteria again, and its something that we want to replace, since Web 2.0 companies like Twitter use subjective criteria to censor people.

The marked content may contain nudity, intense sexuality, political incorrectness, profanity, slurs, violence or other potentially disturbing subject matter.

I didn't see any of the above in the post we are talking about @savvyplayer, and I think it is a bad idea to consider content that is "Politically Incorrect" as #NSFW since political correctness is often a result of propaganda, and I don't think that should be used as a standard.

[savvyplayer]

I did not say that I agree with everything on the wiki article. I just said that I can say that I agree with the content of the page (in general). I also don't want to talk about "political correctness". 🙅‍♂️

I already got your point that #nsfw is subjective, except when you can directly see a nude or violent image. 🤨

[chrisrice]

1. You linked to the article, and I pointed out the flaws I saw in it.

2. If you don't want to talk about political correctness, don't link to a source that calls it's opposite #NSFW.

3. #NSFW does not always have to be subjective, it depends on the criteria used
   
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[savvyplayer]

1. Okay. 😑
2. I didn't know you would focus on that. 😒
3. I just mentioned that it is not always subjective. 🤨

[chrisrice]

Okay, I think we can consider this settled.

• All of it was a non-issue for me and this is the normal type of conversations that I think we can expect on a stake-weighted free speech platform.
  
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