I realize that my sarcasm was unkind to you. But, I don't think it bears repeating, you entered into this conversation with rudeness and insults. I'll simply ask that you'd consider a more lighthearted approach next time. A more friendly approach. It would go such a long way. I think you were kind to me. I could tell you were being kind to me, and I appreciate that. I am sorry for any mocking comments I've made towards you. I did so in reaction to your antagonism. If you had not done that it all could've been averted. I really don't mind these kind of conversations when they're civil. And honestly, truly, I think in this instance you'd do well to reflect on your own behavior before admonishing others not to judge. I would've tried my best not to judge you. And I do always try with everyone I meet. You set me in a place of defense against you. I read and enjoyed my friends article purely from a philosophical standpoint and was not prepared to or interested in starting or responding to any pointed religious or scientific arguments about it. And if you noticed, even in his writing he wasn't swearing by or preaching a certain view. He was only stating the "secular" view that all non-religious people hold to be the most plausible. Notice I haven't said true I've said - the most plausible. That's all we know and all we can do. Now, if you believe you know more or better we'd surely be open to your convincing us of that. But when you're rattling off scientific facts to us at gunshot speed with precise aim at us who you view as your enemy it just doesn't work. And honestly, if you've noticed I stepped down immediately and I told you those are points where I'm not prepared to argue. I wasn't looking to argue at all. I don't wish to convince of any viewpoint of my own and the whole point of this post was not to preach any viewpoint at all. We were only expressing our particular views. And you're welcome to express your own so long as that's not expressed in the form of an attack. We may disagree on this, but I felt it came as an attack. I'm sorry if you meant well in what you were saying. I know you must mean well. And I am listening. Your comment about considering the ants, I did read and I will look at the source that you've quoted. There is much wisdom in the bible and I've not forgotten that. I wish this could've gone better. Maybe if we really could talk to each other in a disarming way it could. You have no idea who your approaching online or where they're coming from and we had no idea of who you were either. All we've seen is a seemingly very angry person out to disprove our stances presented. I hope I'm not coming across the wrong way. I really don't wish to fight. And I know my own shortcomings in these type of situations. I do resort to sarcasm, and I do apologize to you for that. It was wrong of me. I believe in this instance, as I've stated, my friend was simply in no mental state to take on an argument of the magnitude you've tried to present. And I believe his anger in general might in part be ascribed to being in a heavily medicated state that he requires for his existence. You're speaking to someone who is in a lot of chronic mental and physical pain. That's alters someone's behavior, and often in negative ways. We all would do good to empathize with one another and try to see the whole picture of one another's lives. That's so hard to do online. That's why I think you're probably a decent person, as I believe we try to be as well. Maybe some other time we can come back around and all try it again. I'd be open to that.
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I have not taken offense from you and intended none at you.
Having said that, how have I been rude or insult? How have I attacked anyone?
My statement:
"Do not judge! and especially when time and space is so different.
I would not judge people in a different city, or in a different state ..."
Did I tell anyone to do that? If I had said that to anyone, then, the statement would have been self-contradictory.
Thank you for the lengthy reply. However, none of my comments were directed or intended for you, @intspekt. Please do not take anything that I said as anything against you, @intspekt - none were.
I don't take offense at all. This can be a really testy subject. It's a very personal subject. I've meant no disrespect to you either. Take care. Please if you can, watch the video I posted. It says a lot of what I wish I could say. It's really good for showing the best approach to debate. I really learned a lot when I saw it. I do wish you the best. This got silly, and that's not what I would've wanted. But we don't know each other. I'm sure if we did this in person it probably would've gone a lot simpler. But that's what happens when you're behind a computer screen. It's good and bad.
nothing from reading this post and regret that I even commented on it. There is nothing to gain or lean from the OP in my assessment and explained in my other comment.
I will stop wasting more time here.
@intspekt - I have gained All the best! @intspekt
Understood. Same to you! No hard feelings at all. If you do wish to discuss these things with me in particular anywhere. Please don't fear commenting. I won't attack you and I will listen. I was raised Southern Baptist, grew up Pentecostal, ended up Charismatic non-denominational. I can name every TV preacher there is, likely every published christian author there is. I attended the largest mega-church in my state from it's founding to the demise of it's pastor to scandal. (A man whom I still believe is a very good and honorable person.) I've lived in your world and I respect where you're coming from. I respect what you believe. Please understand that. I'm not responsible for things other people say or think. I'm responsible for me. And wherever I went wrong today, I am sorry. I feel like every time we engage like this that we learn. We learn a better way to approach it the next time. Maybe, at the very least, we can both come away with that.