you may need to refresh yourself, it has been thirteen days. sorry about that.
i forget how awesome steemit is at actually having people that respond without simple fluffy retort.
we are creating the rules as we go, that is, through our fear of death and ego, we "create" the rules that will apply to beings like us.
yes. because we live in God's imagination, what rules could there be? we can break all of them, but some 'rules' live at a deeper level of our consciousness and are more difficult to break.
And it very much seems that nearly every and any intellectual endeavor was instrumental to this purpose: our books of philosophy, law, politics, economics were all dedicated on how to "make the human machine work smoothly"
yes. this is literally confucius... ritual is the way to make things work.
i am lao tzu. the way is already. overlying rules on top of this messes it up.
We are meant to function as one single global organism. That's the whole point.
i guess if you call that a point. the point to me is enjoy myself. there is no other point...
well growth, but what is growth when we came from/are already perfect but let it go to come here? so that isn't it... i think we came here for experience. because knowing a thing isn't the same as doing a thing.
but doing it on our own.... without being told... that is what this world is all about and why there is so much confusion. we made ourselves forget completely so that we could decide again what and how we wanted to be.
i think the biggest mistake is to not make your own choices.
how many cells it has to produce IN EXCESS to make sure, at 99,9999%, that the job will get done.
i love this and i do think this is how God works. 10 million bad guys? 1 billion saints. ever seen The Dark Crystal? the idea that the mystic(urRu)/evil(Skeksis) arose together appeals to me.
That's this impression of "free will" and the fact there is no plan.
i will agree that free will is technically impossible, the practically implemented thru the veil of forgetting. and the world is kept in perfect harmony... against our will... lol. by the 'law' of opposites.
that is why the middle way appeals to me, from The Buddha.
probabilities and statistics ensure that at the end of the day, he will have gotten enough to sustain himself, even if YOU specifically did not contribute.
here i believe in the law of attraction. you bring to yourself what you need. bums are unfortunately pinching themselves off from source (abraham-hicks terminology) . the perfect harmony of the world ensures everyone gets what they have energetically asked for... and it could be that people asked for so little they die. but self-preservation, a deep seated program, is difficult to overcome, as is evident by the number of people in extreme pain but continue on.
to tell the longest story possible, for us to materialize or manifest all that God IS,
i think embodying God inside ourselves is the goal. to be like Christ/Buddha/Lao Tzu .
but whether you participate in it or not, won't make a difference
well, you are always participating. even those that are not are counterbalancing those overachievers out there. : )
won't make a difference, simply because of the way this world is organized.
true, and false. i think would could make things very miserable for ourselves, but once realizing we are in fact doing it to ourselves we will stop. i am hoping to foster this realization because I'd like to live in a better world.... remove the extremes... extreme wealth/extreme poverty. consider the impact. 10 people are rich.. but 1,000 are poor. this isn't good math.
Whether aliens are part of the story or not, that's still up in the air,
eh, other dimensions, yes. other worlds... other galaxies... no.
but I'm feeling it may be the case, given the dire situation humanity is in (ecological collapse, financial/economic collapse, political collapse...)
nobody is coming to save us. we must save ourselves.
you can be free now, turn back to God, know the Truth, and Live your Life in Joy!
be joyful now, and what else is there? i tell you everything else will fall into place.
and the more people that do this, the better it will get for everyone.
it is already good for me now.
peace, love, joy
namaste
thanks for allowing me to speak, and for stimulating such thoughts. appreciated.
Thanks so much kelvn!
Yes, indeed, the conversation is very stimulating.
I wrote a couple of new pieces where I try to delve deeper into all these concepts.
Two might be of interest specifically:
https://steemit.com/spirituality/@marma/my-spiritual-journey-15-where-lies-the-truth
https://steemit.com/spirituality/@marma/my-spiritual-journey-16-the-battle-for-human-consciousness
As regards "help" from the outside, I don't think it's that clear cut... I think the best "metaphor" to explain what this Universe looks like is ultimately, like a giant Quantum Computer which, every time it "thinks", it consumes the entire energy of the Universe in which it is built including the particles that compose itself! But whenever it "thinks", it invariable "recreates" itself in thought, thus spawning another Universe where it exists until it "thinks" again. And each and every one of us, each particle in this Universe, is like one sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-thread inside this Quantum Computer's "main Thread".
This idea of "determinism" of the "Ultimate end" can be encapsulated in this saying: "the Universe cannot be less than what it already is". In more concrete terms, at the very "heart" of each black hole is the "ultimate" future "idea", where time flowed instantaneously fast and produced the "first" photon, the "first" atom, the "first" molecule, the "first" living cell, the "first" human etc... And all the rest is a projection from this black hole on the outside of a "story" which makes the bridge between these ideas. Think of it like giant Tesla coils where the electricity of both reach out to one another. This is how "time" looks like: the future reaching out towards the past to create the "bridge" which will manifest all that God, the Universal Consciousness, the Universe, the center of the Black Hole IS (all of the ideas sitting on a shelf). The trajectory of this "lightning bolt" is far from being determined! There are an infinite number of "paths" that can make that bridge, that connection. But that connection WILL happen, one way or another. Think of this lightning bolt between two tesla coils as being the "energy" of our souls, and we being the "vehicle" which transports this energy from point A to point B. Yes, we are here to experiment, to experience, we are conveyors of energy, we are like a giant electric battery that conveys energy from one point to another, and while we're at it, of course, we may as well have fun doing it!
On the "aliens" point, I think that future is still open. Remember when the American Indians were "invaded" by the white western barbaric european colons? I'm pretty sure that their "chamans" had dreams and prescience of "white demons" that would come to their shores and kill them. Apparently, this is why the Maya disappeared without a trace. They knew the "fate" of their people and preferred to "collectively" leave this dimension. In a way, the invasion of European colons in those days is EXACTLY as if an alien species invaded us. We are all like inside a collective consensual "dream bubble" which eventually enters into contact with the "dream bubble" of other beings (aliens, higher dimensional beings, you name it) and all it takes is for a sufficient number of people to "believe" or think it's possible to open a "portal" between two dream bubbles and allow a new "reality" to set in, just like the American Indians' reality transformed radically with the arrival of European colons.
Now of course, if you read my article 3 about "the true nature of reality", all of this that we are discussing does not exist! If we really dig deep, all we are is just a big bundle of self-contained vibrations, a big bundle of information expressed as a vibration, and to which WE superimpose an "interface" (the reality we see) which allows us to "interact" with other bundles of pure energy/vibration. It's much more practical that way, just like using Windows is better to interact with a computer than just with a keyboard with a 0 and 1! But here is the "trick" question: which "interface" is more "real"? Linux? Windows? MacOS? I hope you see where I'm getting at! The "arrival" of aliens could simply be seen as an UPDATE of our collective interface like updating from Windows 3.1 to Windows 10... :-D Sure, it's a "shocker", but all that it is, if you really dig deep, is another way for bundles of pure energy/vibration to interact with other bundles of pure energy/information. Aliens contacting us would be like a developer building a "bridge" between Linux and Windows to allow them to exchange information... Anyways, the point being, we shouldn't take the reality we "see", which only exists in our brains, too seriously. It was designed for a purpose: that of enabling us to interact with pure energy/information in a structured and coherent way, and one where we wouldn't be able to instantly destroy ourselves or the entire Universe (like if you had direct control over the hardware of a computer and could fry the circuits). We are given access via the "interface", until we show that we are ready to have access to more, like the base code of the interface, which will afford more control over our reality. But this will happen only, as you rightfully point out, to the people that realize that "we are all one" and thus will not use these new "powers" for selfish gain or "evil".
As for the law of attraction, I think there is no point when you are not using it! I think the law of attraction IS the way this interface works! Every time you move your finger, what's happening "under the hood" is that you're sending a vibration/intention to the Universe to update your bundle of vibration/information and it shows up in our reality as you moving your finger (after the Universe has checked that it is compatible with all of the other vibrations of everybody else in the Universe). Using it consciously to manifest money is just a "next logical step". If you feel as "confident" in conjuring up money as you are when you are giving an order to the Universe to move your finger, then you will get rich very quick... (See my article 16 above where I explain this in more detail). :-)
I almost feel like apologizing. Had we been face to face, I think this conversation would be much shorter. Perhaps just a smile, a grin.. I love life.
As we dig deeper, I find we agree more or less completely, including the nature of reality.
Getting farther away from the ultimate Truth, that there is Only God, and nothing else. Then God made that which is not appear real, that to me is the shadow, but it is required to have form, to have separation, to appear separate.
Not sure if quantum computers is truly how the universe thinks, but I do feel it may be even more awesome, beyond our imagining, and quantum computers is just as far as we can think : )
I've literally seen Law of Attraction in action... it requires Passion, and unyielding resolve, then you can have it almost instantly. that was cool, but a bit scary in that she was breathing fire... but there was no way she wasn't going to eat! then a twenty dollar bill blew by.
probably dropped by someone nearby. at the time it was a miracle.
i sense that all miracles may very well be our higher being reaching down to do what we ask but do it unawares to us. they do their work as we do ours, but in a different realm, with the goal of assisting us, because I can see myself in that role and how that might work.
Thanks again for the thoughts. Appreciate your time, and Appreciate your spending so much time and effort spreading the light around Steemit. I am rather consumed with child. blessed wonderful time consuming things.
Hi Kelvn,
Thanks for your kind words! Indeed, I guess the ultimate goal is to arrive to a point where words are no longer necessary, just a smile, a hug, a look of mutual recognition signaling that deep understanding which does not require any explanation. :-)
I fully agree also on the quantum computer thing. Our imagination is always limited by the metaphors and concepts that are available to us at a certain point in time. Jesus could only speak the language of allegory and basic ethics, we can use the language of science, God only knows the new concepts which will be available to us in 500 or 1000 years.. Perhaps it won't even be words but rather telepathically transmitted feelings and thoughts...
Basically, we are like atoms that somehow "feel" they can become molecules, or molecules that somehow "feel" like they can become a living cell... And a molecule appears to be God for the atoms (binding them and controlling them, but sorting out their interactions so that it's not all chaos), and living cells are like God to molecules, controlling them in perfectly balanced chemical reactions... And we are like Gods to individual cells, and... Whatever is above us is also trying to "sort" things out, in a very gentle way, making sure that we willingly become something greater than the sum of it's parts, just like molecules are greater than the sum of the atoms composing them, and living cells are much greater than the molecules that compose them... ;-)