Thank you, and same to you my friend!
I know that Iamnothing and Anonymouselee played the leaderboard in Bronse before we went to Tier 4 and they started to play silver. Before battlehelpers and also made first place finishes.
You are top 10 by using Archmage. I can't really see the difference by placing 1st or placing 10th and that Archmage would be more ok than Xbot?
I'm pretty sure we all feel the same way about bots, and I think they should be nerfed or something at least so they don't destroy the game for more real players.
Maybe we should do a challenge without the bots for fun.
5 pirates vs 5 of your best players in silver?
I don't say we would win but I'm pretty sure we would give a good fight.
Anonymouselee, Iamnothing, Lics01, Mumuwhale are some of the best players I know in silver together with your Japanese crew :) I've played these guys a lot and consider them better than me.
Putting this out like these Pirates are bot only players are just bad mouthing and hating on some of this games true gamers who are adapting to the meta of the game(witch is laddering with help of bots). Its the rules of the game that needs to be changed.
I'm pretty sure that these guys doesn't play bot in brawls because I watch their games, I also play up to 9 freys myself and I play against battlehelper builds all the time believe me!
Tournaments are destroyed by bots and its so hard to compete against them these days. But I still hope and believe that most players have the self respect to at least play their own game in brawls.
There is always two sides to a coin and I think we all are more similar than you might think. I also remembered from our "Pirates attack Schnapoon" live event that Iamnothing beat you more times than you beat him and he also posted screenshots of his builds before you put in your teams(in case you think he looked at your livestream or something)
Don't pick on the pirates who aim for your and uey's success in this game just because the game isn't the same anymore.
Just check the full rental of cards with a much lower winrate than you and uey and you can see that these guys does not bot in brawls at least. So I say they deserve credit compared to a lot of other guilds with a majority of players seams to use battle helper in brawls and pick easy wins with cheap rents.
The leaderboard is not everything in this game and ueyuey deserves and probably get the biggest respect and credit to be so good and consistent that he is.
Now lets see the broader picture and not just the players who used bots to ladder the 95% bot silver ladder shall we?
First of all, you and I are arguing from different positions and with different justifications, so I expect that if we continue to talk like this, we will not be able to come to a coherent position and it will go in a bad direction. Since you and I both seem to feel that we are victims of each other, we will not be satisfied with this discussion. Please listen to me on the assumption that I feel that way.
You will know from the response to this article that what I am telling you is not just my personal feelings or narrow minded opinion.
And if you guys could imagine if you were not using BH, you would understand that better. I am sure you can imagine if you really like to play manual in this game.
I have left everything to AM for one season and that tool was not top 10 anything.
Even with my card assets, I was in the top 20 or lower in Silver League LB.
For some reason in a 50 mana match I would choose Serenia instead of Kitty. He uses only beta rare summoners even though they are not very active.
I use them because I feel that is what the bot should be. If they are in the top 10 on the last day then I will discontinue using them after that.
There would be no one who would take 5vs5 with you guys.
At least I can trust you, but I can't trust any player other than you not to use BH.
I think it is pointless to fight in such a situation.
If you don't want to be thought of as a bot only guild, just stop using it.
Even if you beat a prominent manual player, those rumors will not go away.
I also agree with you that the bad guys are the xbots who let people use the rules of the game and BH on the cheap. But it is my opinion that it is wrong to reopen it as a meta to the game.
I never asked you not to look at my screen for the SPLTV event.
Of course I applaud you guys for your victory, but that was a kind of entertainment, and winning there won't change everyone's opinion of it.
I am very disappointed in the current environment where I have to think this way about people I thought I had a better relationship with than that.
Ok you can say i use battlehelper when i have never used it ever in my life.
And if you continue to use that as an argument i will call you a repeatetive liar.
Iamnothing2 beat ueyuey without xbot just playing manual last season in the end as well. Believe it or not.
I can't play 8 accounts in ladder manually and i don't find it fun before i come higher in the ladder either. d
These guys i listed don't use battle helper in brawls and neither do i.
The players that uses it in brawl i see it pretty clearly.
I suspect we have 1 player that uses battlehelper in brawls.
And we might do something about it eventually.
Maybe I can go though your own guild and find one as well.
We take proud to this game and our players are adapting to this new meta when others give up to the bots.
I'm happy that i can find enjoyment of renting up all cards in the mighty gambit just to get 1-13 as a result in the end but I understand why people join the meta and uses helpers as well. (credits to the players who play natural like me and mumu does with all our accounts in brawls and tournaments)
Caring about playing manual in ladder these days are not the meta.
You clearly have some issues with everything that's happened and in my point of view it feels like you don't listen to what I say in these posts and continues to alter the reality based on your feelings.
In the first place, I never once questioned whether you (cryptohoppir) use BH or not, nor did I use it as an excuse.
You are mistaken about something. Your misunderstanding may be due to a translation error, sorry about that.
But it is hard to believe about players other than you. It seems to me that when you are told something that is not good for you or your members, you immediately assume it is subjective to me and try to excuse it.
Try to gather some prominent Silver League manual players who are willing to play 5vs5 with you. I bet you won't be able to get them.
Of course there is subjectivity involved, but I am speaking from a relatively objective point of view. If you can get them together, I'll grant you your opinion.
And my suggestion that you stop using xbot if you want credit is not an attempt to change you guys.
I'm just offering a quick solution since you seem to want credit for me.
There is an xbot user in my guild, but I never suggested anything to change his mind.
I understand the idea of a metagame, but do you think new players would willingly join Splinterlands, where metagames that ignore the inherent fun of the game are prevalent?
To me it seems like you guys are bringing guns to a game where you fight with swords and saying you are proud of this game.