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RE: Global Blacklist API Proposal

in #sps5 years ago (edited)

Until you offer a way for blacklisted accounts to exit your blacklist I won't vote on this proposal.

What you do is right and essential for this platform but in my opinion you get carried away and add everyone to the same bucket. I understand that fighting abuse you start seeing rotten in everyone but you should put more effort in explaining what behavior is not accepted and warn before condemning. If you're too busy (and I'm sure you are) you should delegate someone else as I'm sure other people are willing to do so.

For example, almost 2 years ago one of my bots was auto-replying to an abuser. Because of a bug it replied also in a thread in which you were involved and you decided to blacklist my bot forever. It was not spamming as it was only auto-commenting on my own posts or target accounts that agreed to it. I asked multiple times how to solve the problem and get out of the blacklist, you never bothered replying. You simply sit there and mock/laugh at people asking for resolution.

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Until you offer a way for blacklisted accounts to exit your blacklist I won't vote on this proposal.

There has been a #blacklist channel on my discord for like 2 years where people can appeal. People have been removed from the list.

What you do is right and essential for this platform but in my opinion you get carried away and add everyone to the same bucket.

Every account on the list has done something that more than qualifies them to be on the list. I don't put people I don't like on it and am very particular about what it takes to get on the list.

For example, almost 2 years ago one of my bots was auto-replying to an abuser. Because of a bug it replied also in a thread in which you were involved and you decided to blacklisted my bot forever.

What bot? And where did I mock and laugh at you?

You simply sit there and mock/laugh at people asking for resolution

Eg.

  • A channel called "Blacklist - bring popcorn"

  • When you reply to appeals with memes

Just a couple of examples..

...I may be wrong but I perceive this as mocking / bullying / abuse of power.

People may have put a lot of effort into their accounts and like nothing they become useless thanks to @badcontent bot that (used to) start spamming every user on your blacklist and condemning them in its auto-comments in the same bucket as scammers. And at the same time the auto-comments were promoting your bidbot. Not very ethical IMO.

@iamstan put a good word for me and you finally turned it off but @gasaeightyfive still remains blacklisted.

I know that you generally don't like free resteemers. But IMO they:

  • Allow minnows to have a chance to get seen (I used them a lot myself when I started and was getting 0 payout)
  • Prevents new accounts from starting their own paid resteem service for absurd prices (new users may fall for them). Mine keeps the price free (and next to nothing for subscriptions).

And again, it never spammed accounts. It only auto-commented on its own posts, on post of users that subscribed and were ok with it, on other free resteemers posts.

How can we resolve this then? Thx

And at the same time the auto-comments were promoting your bidbot. Not very ethical IMO.

The bot never promoted the bid bot, and it clearly said it was one of these reasons.

Resteem services don't do anything, no one follows them to find content, it is mostly bots and auto follows. Such snake oil.

If I remember correctly, you were spamming another resteem service you were fighting with.

As for memes, I rarely drop them and when I do it's when a plagiarizer or spammer is pretending to be something else while begging over and over to be taken off the list. Resteem from a big account holder, sure that might do something but from a bot, lol.

never promoted the bid bot

Correct, but a new user that never heard of @buildahwale will click on it and found out about your paid service. So IMO, it is somehow promoting it.

one of these reasons

Exactly, so since you did not specify which one, new users were likely thinking I was a thief or something.. not cool.

you were spamming another resteem service you were fighting with

Yes, we were spamming each other and eventually @iamstan helped me out. But you blacklisted only me, not fair. And you never said the reason of the blacklist so I find out only now 2 years later. Not nice.

Resteem services don't do anything

Well, let the users decide, no?
When I joined steemit I start using those free services myself and finally got some visibility.
I decided to keep helping others for cents. Kept doing so, invested 3 grand and never withdrew.
And I have 1 grand ready in a BTCSTEEM trade in the order book. I care about Steemit and I think that you do great things for these platforms but should improve your blacklist logistics.

@themarkymark
Any update on this?

I found and sent to @guiltyparties 123 leaked private keys found in the STEEM blockchain:
https://steemit.com/steem/@gaottantacinque/steem-chain-scanning-part-2-79-leaked-private-keys-found-and-turned-in-a-new-defender

Am I still a scumbag or does @gasaeightyfive finally qualify for removal from your blacklist?

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FYI:

Still me..
I am also recovering almost in real time accounts that accidentally leak their private keys. I already protected 2x big accounts putting their funds into their savings:
https://steemit.com/steem/@gaottantacinque/the-keys-defender-bot-is-live-in-beta-mode

No luck, hu?

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